This thread could be about specs and such, but it got derailed because Carber Energetics refuses to respond to legitimate questions about how to use their head end ignition solution and still comply with the safety codes. It’s curiosity, not negativism. Many of us would like a safe HEI motor, particularly for staging. Yet when we ask about safety, all we get is name calling and pronouncements that NFPA has no enforcement power. If the safety codes never get addressed, the ONLY [emphasis in original] people who will ever buy their motors are those who don’t rely on a Tripoli or NAR club to get a waiver.
The thread started by a new motor vendor who is offering a revolution in high power rocketry motors. The HEI obviously works in the applications that he used to make commercial motors whos use was by higher authorities, he comes here offering his high power motors and his HEI that WORKS.
the convo went to NFPA.. which is NOT any type of authority its a group that our sport chooses to follow for saftey measures.
When an RSO says, "guys and gals, this is what your going to do and your going to do it over here, when the RSO gives those orders that are safer than NFPA says it has to be is the RSO out of order???? The NFPA says so... where is the outrage over that?
Oh wait.. the RSO is acually making things SAFER while breaking the NFPA rules...
Why is the HEI all of a sudden an issue with an advisory board? Oh wait.. we have the EXPERTS here who launch there mini half A's and call themselves "rocket gods"
I've seen so much B.S from some of you in other threads that I just laugh at how ludicrous some of you sound.
I think I may take your approach.. im going to call Bullshit on some of the utter nonsense some speak only to sound intelligent. I CHOSE to pass by the thread with out calling you out for your incomplete knowledge of some things.
Im far from intelligent and probably have the lowest IQ here, however i have 50 years of life experience and will say what I have known to be true.
I started my own computer business in 1997, im retired now and the company is still running strong. Im responsable for multi million dollar business as well as the little old couple living in a nursing home. So I've seen and done it all. Am I an expert in computers? I'm willing to bet my $ against your $ on who is more knowledgeable. Am I the smartest computer guy out there. NO FREIKING WAY. Do I have ANY idea how to build a HP motor.. well yes I have an idea, would my motors work.. 100% no!
After 50 years of building motors, I can guarantee one thing, I'd be better at building motors than owning a computer company.
Don has experience, and builds non commercially available motors that have a HEI, he hired a chemist to make everything burn right. Ive hired professionals while owning my own business. (I hired a Cisco engineer to connect 4 car dealerships together while I was wiring a new dealership comming online.
Why do some of you feel the need to say anything negative about a new vendor who is making the motors he already produces available to us HP guys..
Maybe its time to become a fact checker and totally blast the people who make up stuff only to sound smart to others. A bunch of negative posts to follow up the lies and nonsense...maybe that will make you feel safer..
I can do this all under the guise of being "smarter" than I acually am, as well as referencing Microsoft (NFPA) as the all knowing God. How many of you have illegal versions of office, of windows, of any program you use? Should I blast you for doing something I cant do? I WOULD LOSE MY IPD STATUS AS WELL AS MY OEM CERT if I loaded a SINGLE pc without a key. So anytime someone mentions computer software is it OK for me to blast the person asking for help or advise? Trust me you don't want to go there as Microsoft is the same as the NFPA.. dont think Microsoft can fine you? Dont think Microsoft has no rules? (NFPA) Dont think Microsoft won't send you a letter where YOU HAVE TO PROVE THEY ARE IN THE WRONG? Ever try to win against them in court? Yeah...I think ill be the Microsoft police and start telling YOU what you can and can't do based upon what Microsoft "says"
All Don did was say hello and give us a heads up on what he has to offer us. The treatment by some is honestly just down right pathetic.
I pray a new low power vendor shows up.. I have no need for them so its acceptable for me to blast them and question everything to include the type of paper the engine is wrapped in.
New motor vendor comes on here and gets blasted by people who will never buy his motors, BECAUSE THEY DONT FLY HIGH POWER AND ARE AFRAID OF DUAL DELPOY!!! IM WILLING TO BET ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER TO STUPID TO FIGURE IT OUT AND DONT WANT TO BE LAUGHED AT DUE TO THERE FAILURES.
This whole thread is just SAD for rocketry as a whole.
The Dude