The numbers out of Italy are not accurate per Italian doctors themselves. They state that they report deaths with and deaths from as the same even though the vast majority of patients that have died with the virus actually died due to their existing conditions. Additionally, their mean age was something like 78. Using the Italian numbers to support a possible death toll in the US is absurd.
On the other hand, does it count the people who died of heart attacks or accidents or other things who would have usually survived, but they couldn’t get the care they needed due to the hospital being maxed out with COVID-19 patients? There’s a lot that is missed no matter how you count it. In a year, we will be able to count the number of people who died overall from ANY cause and compare it to the year before. That will tell us the overall impact.
What do you think it’s going to be here?
I'm not certain I read what you wrote as it was intended Jarrett..
First,
I understand that there was some uncertainty about the count here in the US
because someone that passed from their underlying condition that was exasperated by their infection with Covid 19
either should have and wasn't or was and shouldn't have been counted..
I think that's the point you were making within Italy..
Second,
Your point about mean age totally skews the Italian count if compared to the US count..
And one thing we know is the older you are the worse off you are if infected..
That's also a good point Eric, but someone passing with a Covid 19 infection because they already had bronchitis and or asthma
should be counted in the death toll..
It's a whole different discussion for someone who has an advanced heart condition and passes of a heart attack
because he couldn't get proper medical care because of overburdened hospitals..
@Onebadhawk Take care of yourself, Teddy. Stay safe.
Heyy Kit,,
You too man..
Don't worry, you'll be flyin back at the Snow Ranch with your buddies soon for sure..
Kit, are you ok man ??
I'm sorry, I forget, you're with your wife, right ?? Kids grown and on their own..
I know I'm not quite around the corner, but do you have all you need ??
I hope you are right. I think that in less than a year it will be back and we will be doing this all over again before we are finished with the first.
I am so saturated at this point. I have been receiving email notices from online vendors stating that due to the COVID, orders will be shipped out as it's safe to do so. This bothers me deeply and I wonder if anyone else sees the email as an opportunity to put their name back in the front of your brain. I mean, put the notice on their website so people that are about to order can see it. Place a notice when you order but not a mass email to everyone on their distribution list prior to. The level of bad behavior out of all of this is astonishing.
What will be interesting will be the sociological studies 50+ years down the road.
A big giant yep Jarrett..
That's what I'm thinkin as well..
This coming fall it's going to be back..
Partly because we'll have our collective guard down..
Though I don't think it'll be near as bad as what we have coming in the next 2 or 3 weeks..
Yeah, price gouging, it's been reported all over, particularly with medical supplies ( PPE )..
I heard this morning that the CDC is recommending everyone wear mask now but also request that the N95's be used by medical folks. They said they really don't know how fast this is getting out of hand so it's best we all mask up.
Yeah, well that's why I'm goin to make some, lol..
If I can make enough I'll send some around to you guys..
I hope I can knock em out fairly quickly..
Teddy