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I don't think the op is a new member at all...
I think he's an old timer....
Teddy
I think he's an old timer....
Teddy
Bottom line: the RSO is the final authority on what gets to launch. The RSO may be right or wrong; he may understand the rules perfectly or imperfectly; but he still makes the call. There may be a rocket that meets all of NAR safety rules that, for whatever reason, the RSO won't approve. There is no one over his head to whom you can appeal. Likewise, an unsafe rocket might get the okay. But the RSO wins.
technically speaking a launch director can override an RSO
Not quite. The LD and/or the RSO can stop any launch activity, but the LD can not override a negative decision of the RSO.
Bottom line: the RSO is the final authority on what gets to launch. The RSO may be right or wrong; he may understand the rules perfectly or imperfectly; but he still makes the call. There may be a rocket that meets all of NAR safety rules that, for whatever reason, the RSO won't approve. There is no one over his head to whom you can appeal. Likewise, an unsafe rocket might get the okay. But the RSO wins.
Actually, when it comes to interpreting the Safety Code, the ultimate authority is the NAR Board, NOT an RSO. Now in the middle of a launch, there's no recourse. But after such a question comes up from a launch, the issue can be brought to the NAR board, or NAR president, to determine if the interpretation was correct or not, for the future.
Now, if an RSO would have the attitude of "I don't CARE what the NAR says", while using the NAR safety code as the reason for their decision, that would be a bigger issue beyond whatever the code or rules are. And tending to be one that as a flier I would avoid attending. But I do not think that is the case here.
The OP tossed a grenade and stepped back. He is probably reading this crap and laughing his ass off.
The OP tossed a grenade and stepped back. He is probably reading this crap and laughing his ass off.
110%.....
I do not doubt this even for a second...
I was surprised when Dave M gave him the benefit of the doubt,,
but it's too long now without another post...
The club RSO said I cannot launch my rocket. It uses 3 metal screws to hold in the electronics bay. A clear violation of the NAR guidelines?!? Anyway, is there anywhere in the US I can launch?
Well.... some HS students DO in fact check the forum 320 times a day.first post was at 9:07 am. Believe it or not... normal people don't check the forum 320 times a day. And if he's some kid in HS/college... likely in classes all day.
first post was at 9:07 am. Believe it or not... normal people don't check the forum 320 times a day. And if he's some kid in HS/college... likely in classes all day.
He'll see the insane argument here and swear off forums forever. His lack of familiarity with forums (from thread placement to lack of a photo, good details) further points to someone who was frustrated and looking for a place to vent. wouldn't be shocked if this turned up on NAR FB as well.
Hey,,
You promised you'd find your way back up hear for a launch....
Well....
Teddy
Well.... some HS students DO in fact check the forum 320 times a day.first post was at 9:07 am. Believe it or not... normal people don't check the forum 320 times a day. And if he's some kid in HS/college... likely in classes all day.
This.More like a bunch of people arguing with a Troll.
This.
Well.... some HS students DO in fact check the forum 320 times a day.
Well.... some HS students DO in fact check the forum 320 times a day.
[FREE] doesn't last long..... good point.
Your RSO is strictly enforcing NAR Code:
https://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/
If you want to launch at a NAR sanctioned event, then you follow NAR rules.
Tripoli Safety Code is crafted around NFPA 1127. Although NFPA compliance is voluntary, Tripoli have adopted it as organizational safety code. Below is a breakdown of materials use as Tripoli deems acceptable based on NFPA 1127 guidelines:
https://www.tripoli.org/Portals/1/Documents/Safety Code/Metal in Rocket Construction v2.0.pdf
I believe Tripoli events allow NAR certified fliers to attend (and vice-versa) but I do not know about inter-organizational insurance. Maybe you'll have to sign a waiver or something, idk.
Corzero, what is your interpretation of "no substantial metal parts"?
Objection! Badgering the witness!
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