Seriously? Source? The rules as written is the source. Why complicate something so simple?
Please stop replying until we hear more from the OP. This is a dead thread unless the OP participates.
Or free speech which does not violate TRF rules and which you are more than welcome to ignore. However you want to look at it.
I got a giggle out of this one Teddy. You're correct of course but this is TRF man ! This thread will go to 10 pages of speculation before the OP comes back with more info. :wink:
The club RSO said I cannot launch my rocket. It uses 3 metal screws to hold in the electronics bay. A clear violation of the NAR guidelines?!? Anyway, is there anywhere in the US I can launch?
Corzero, what is your interpretation of "no substantial metal parts"?
Were you launching at Santa Fe Dam by any chance?
Since I've already been labeled a troll, I challenge anyone to correct my irrationality and explain to me how my arguments are not logical. Basis for my arguments is simply line 1 of NAR Code, of which there already has been some stated confusion and uncertainty regarding the definition of the components within the code.
Thread reads like a Constitutional Law debate.
More like a bunch of people arguing with a Troll.
My interpretation would be irrelevant as "no substantial metal parts" is not stated within the NAR Code in question.
Since I've already been labeled a troll, I challenge anyone to correct my irrationality and explain to me how my arguments are not logical. Basis for my arguments is simply line 1 of NAR Code, of which there already has been some stated confusion and uncertainty regarding the definition of the components within the code.
Line 1 of the code is just that, one line. I challenged the code with my brass knuckles statement and could not get a decent rebuttal. To any reasonable person, of course it would not be wise to fill the airframe with your moms silverware collection, but according to the code, it would not be a violation. It is for the purpose of clearing the ambiguity of the code I ask for sources and definitions, for according to some, the stated code is sufficient and any further attempt for insight and clarity would be making it more complex than necessary.
I also seem to have an issue understanding why asking for sources is shunned upon. When a person states information which they "believe" to be accurate then they need to back themselves up. Otherwise, nothing constructive can be the result from anything you "believe" or "understand". Please, I emplore anyone to help me understand why this is not a reasonable request.
Anecdotes and "17 years of experience" are no substitute for data. That a person violated line 1 of NAR Code -as it reads- for 17 years does not render the Code null and void. Definitions are the foundation on which laws, rules, statutes etc. are built. As already stated by others, uncertainty exists as to what defines said components within the code. Does a centering ring then become integral to the "body" once it is affixed to the airframe?
Some of you guys amaze me.
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Addendum: For clarity, the above thread rant was created under the presumption the op was referring to HPR. Op stated "electronics bay".
I think we are being trolled. Post a picture of the rocket and the name of the RSO.
This guy only has one post.
More like a bunch of people arguing with a Troll.
Your RSO is strictly enforcing NAR Code:
https://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/
If you want to launch at a NAR sanctioned event, then you follow NAR rules.
Tripoli Safety Code is crafted around NFPA 1127. Although NFPA compliance is voluntary, Tripoli have adopted it as organizational safety code. Below is a breakdown of materials use as Tripoli deems acceptable based on NFPA 1127 guidelines:
https://www.tripoli.org/Portals/1/Documents/Safety Code/Metal in Rocket Construction v2.0.pdf
I believe Tripoli events allow NAR certified fliers to attend (and vice-versa) but I do not know about inter-organizational insurance. Maybe you'll have to sign a waiver or something, idk.
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