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Are you upgrading to Windows 11?

  • Yes, I have a newer PC that can update to Windows 11

    Votes: 11 44.0%

  • Yes, I have an older PC that will be upgraded and then updated to Windows 11

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • No, I have an older PC that cannot upgrade to Windows 11. Will continue with Windows 10

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • Total voters
    25
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I have an older PC. It was bought as a refurbished model some 7 or 8 years ago, real cheap.
It runs fine, and has not given me any problems. It does what I need it to do.
When running Windows update I got a message that my PC cannot upgrade to the new Windows 11.
Are there any of you in the same situation, and what would you do?
 
I upgraded my computer and downloaded Windows 10 replacing Windows 7. The computer viruses and other problems were getting worse, so I made the transition. As I recall the transition was bumpy. Email addresses were not carried over from the old Outlook to the new Outlook, so I had to wing it. Right now I have no plans to transition to Windows 11. Why invite problems when things are working fine for me.
 
Machine came with Win10, no way do I trust MS's pig-in-a-poke. Had enough trouble dealing with Win7 -> Win10.

Side note: Somewhere I have Win3.1. Seven 1.44MB floppies. Now it's a couple of DVDs or a looong download. How much of that code is simply junk that was just carried along in each new version...

Best -- Terry
 
My not too old, but low end laptop was just upgraded to Windows 11. I don't see any benefits yet though. My PC needs are rather limited to an internet browser, open office or the Google cloud apps, Teams for work, Open Rocket and occasionally GIMP. Even with traditional applications, most of my computer use can be done through web based cloud apps. I might end up going back to a Linux laptop and not even bothering with a more bloated OS with features I don't need.
 
We bought new (refurbished) machines to replace our three, buggy, 10 year old, non-upgradable machines at church. I kept the old laptop (that used to be on my desk) and it will likely see service as our new livestream computer, replacing the Windows Vista machine currently in use. 😀

I doubt any of our home machines are upgradable but also doubt we would replace more than one, at most. My wife's machine is, I think the oldest (other than the one on my workbench that I just converted to Linux Mint).
 
I'm w Nate, I just bought a low end Dell last month (under $575). It is not fully setup w all my stuff, so thought it a great time to upgrade to win 11 - it's free and not a very big upgrade. It was pretty painless to upgrade, and all works great so far.
 
I have many computers of many vintages.

I've taken all of the ones likely to be used for anything worthwhile up to Windows 10.

I have an experimental box running windows 11. It is lower than recommended minimum specs (i5-6500 I think) but worked fine on the dev channel and made transition to release version without complaint.

No plans to take either of my most recent computers (desktop and laptop, meet specs) to win 11 anytime soon. No benefit. They work fine.

I have multiple production servers (home theater, camera systems) that work fine on Win11 and are staying there indefinitely. These are under recommended spec but could be installed as 11, similar to my experiment box.

My wife and kids: no plans, no benefit.
 
My work ~3 year old work machine is on Windows 10, most likely it will stay that way until I get a new one, which will presumably be running 11 (or whatever is newer at that point). Our IT department does not generally upgrade existing machines, too much trouble with too little benefit.

Not an issue on my Mac at home. :)
 
I updated my personal laptop to windows 11. First impressions, I like it. As an IT professional, there was things in Windows 10 that was "Clunky," but windows 11 it wasn't so "Clunky." There are a couple things I noticed that I did not care for, like removing the right click the task bar to get to task manager. My Office computer is to old to support Windows 11 by default. I know I can install it if I really want to but I will refrain from doing that. My IT Laptop and Personal Desktop are Ryzen based, so I am not updating those due to the Ryzen issues. Even when those issues are addressed. there is no compelling reason to do so until MS completely ends support for Win10 or they offer something in Win11 that I really want. Well the interface is nice.

Seeing the Mention of a MAC makes me want to share this story:

As an IT guy, I use pretty much Windows mostly but we do have MACs, There was a project that I recommended a Xeon processer based work station (because of the extra PCIe busses the Xeon has is highly recommended for the task), but the team that was consulting on the project were Apple fans, so pretty much talked my employer in getting an i9 10th gen 32 Gb ram, SSD, pretty much the works. My system would of been cheaper, but to be fair, they recommended a better, different approach to the task, so a Xeon Processer would not be needed... but still, they spent to much. They didn't need to spend $3000 on a Mac where a $1000 or less PC would be more than adequate. Anyway, I decided to put this $3000 MAC through its paces and used it as my daily user for several weeks for everything that could be done on a non Windows PC. Conclusion of the experiment. My 6th gen i7 with 16 GB of Ram running windows 10 is a lot faster than that MAC. My BOSS thought it was so funny when I kept telling the MAC, come on now come on now come on now, there you go! Where my Windows 10 machine only takes 6 seconds to boot, and is snappy, and works as fast as I work. Of course, it helps that I am an IT guy, I built my Office pc, and I know how not to install junk on my PC (Which Junk can be installed on a MAC, I have removed malware on MACs before). But seriously, I would expect not to have to see the beach ball 5-10 seconds every time I click on something on a $3000 mac,. Oh, one good thing with MACs, since they are basically running their own version of Linux, when a program crashes, and the normal end tasks method doesn't work (sorry, my MAC's battery is dead so I cant look up what they call it), and you can get into terminal, you can still use the Kill command :D. Or pretty much most linux commands.

Sorry about the Rant :D
 
n3tjm said:
But seriously, I would expect not to have to see the beach ball 5-10 seconds every time I click on something on a $3000 mac,. Oh, one good thing with MACs, since they are basically running their own version of Linux, when a program crashes, and the normal end tasks method doesn't work (sorry, my MAC's battery is dead so I cant look up what they call it), and you can get into terminal, you can still use the Kill command :D. Or pretty much most linux commands.
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2 comments:
1) If your i9-based Macbook Pro is constantly beachballing, you have something wrong. That is not normal. It's a fast machine.
2) MacOs is based on BSD, not Linux.
 
kuririn said:
I have an older PC. It was bought as a refurbished model some 7 or 8 years ago, real cheap.
It runs fine, and has not given me any problems. It does what I need it to do.
When running Windows update I got a message that my PC cannot upgrade to the new Windows 11.
Are there any of you in the same situation, and what would you do?
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I have number of computers, two of which are older and I changed over to Linux, one of which is a specialty computer for a microfiche scanner which they never wrote a driver past Windows 95 (obviously not connected to the internet) and the rest which are upgradable to Win 11 but won't be upgraded until right before the free upgrade to Win 11 ends.

If I was in your situation, Kuririn, I would keep with Win 10 until end of life circa 2025. Then decide what is in your best interest. Lots of technology can change in the next 4 years.
 
I've used a lot of Mac's, and blackballing seems to be a norm, especially since Mohave or High Sierra. Not sure what version... time flies when having "fun"

Yeah you are right, MAC OS is based of BSD. But to me, BSD is a "flavor" of Linux were every "flavor" has similarities with each other, and all have a common ancestor; Unix. Interesting thing, when looking up tech support articles on how to fix issues in MAC OS, or on a Tech Support Call, the term Open up Terminal and enter the Linux command : sudo whatever whatever is used.
 
n3tjm said:
Yeah you are right, MAC OS is based of BSD. But to me, BSD is a "flavor" of Linux were every "flavor" has similarities with each other, and all have a common ancestor; Unix.
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To me this is like saying a Ford is a flavor of a Volkswagen. I mean, technically it's true if you look at it a certain way, but most would consider that a weird statement. But whatever.
Interesting thing, when looking up tech support articles on how to fix issues in MAC OS, or on a Tech Support Call, the term Open up Terminal and enter the Linux command : sudo whatever whatever is used.
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Again, common ancestry. Sudo is a Unix command from 1980.
 
With Apple out with the M1, etc., do you think they’re going to get rid of the intel products?
 
BEC said:
+1 to this. No current plans to upgrade. No compelling case to do so.
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Just to garner perspective, is MS charging you for using Win 10 & 11?
If so, IMHO, that is a doody-head thing to do.
You have to continually pay them for the privilege of using their product?

How does that make you feel?
Show me on the motherboard where the greedy company touched you.

Anyway.....

My only Win box runs XP, and when it runs, it runs everything I need. As you may have guessed it is not connected to the web. I need it for VCP. VCP is great little program, but won't run on any of the newer OS's. Worst of all, a Mac version is not available.

I'll stick to my 10 year old MacBook Pro and keep upgrading. But when the new pay increase goes into effect I'm considering a new 17" MacBook Pro with all the spinner rims and thin tires and a thumper and a lighting package and a set of Mac Nuts in florescent green.
Of course, I'll have to buy Office 365 again.
 
n3tjm said:
Conclusion of the experiment. My 6th gen i7 with 16 GB of Ram running windows 10 is a lot faster than that MAC. My BOSS thought it was so funny when I kept telling the MAC, come on now come on now come on now, there you go! Where my Windows 10 machine only takes 6 seconds to boot, and is snappy, and works as fast as I work. Of course, it helps that I am an IT guy, I built my Office pc, and I know how not to install junk on my PC (Which Junk can be installed on a MAC, I have removed malware on MACs before). But seriously, I would expect not to have to see the beach ball 5-10 seconds every time I click on something on a $3000 mac,. Oh, one good thing with MACs, since they are basically running their own version of Linux, when a program crashes, and the normal end tasks method doesn't work (sorry, my MAC's battery is dead so I cant look up what they call it), and you can get into terminal, you can still use the Kill command :D. Or pretty much most linux commands.

Sorry about the Rant :D
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I have a question about computer lag. My wife bought $200 Win boxes for our daughters. They take forever to load Windows 10, and forever to open any program. I mean any, across the board. I have cleaned them up as much as my limited knowledge would go, defrag, Malware, viruses, programs running in the background, programs that load on boot and uninstalled useless software, All to no avail, they still run like cold molasses.
They are so slow.....
(How slow are they?)
My grrls would rather use their Chromebook or phone.

What can I do?
 
Pem Tech said:
I have a question about computer lag. My wife bought $200 Win boxes for our daughters. They take forever to load Windows 10, and forever to open any program. I mean any, across the board. I have cleaned them up as much as my limited knowledge would go, defrag, Malware, viruses, programs running in the background, programs that load on boot and uninstalled useless software, All to no avail, they still run like cold molasses.
They are so slow.....
(How slow are they?)
My grrls would rather use their Chromebook or phone.

What can I do?
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I call those type of machines "grandma computers"; they are cheap, slow and basically useless for anything other than Grandma browsing the Web, and there are better things for that too.
 

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