L2 Certification Build Thread. LOC Precision 5.5" Magnum 3E, 75mm MM. For a Spring/Early Summer 2024 Attempt.

[86mustang408w]

Well, organizing...

That was a big issue notbe able to sort through what's now too much for a room. I need more space, soon.

Updates on the Magnum 3E, later. This is a real quick but really necessary at this level of build to have things in one spot im used too.

Thats the plan until about 7, then an hour break. Then Rocketry, until 1130 or so like normal.

Michael B.

 

[Hobie1dog]

I love things super organized, very clean, and to the point that you would bring any person of any status into your room and have them go "well this is nice'"

 

[86mustang408w]

I love things super organized, very clean, and to the point that you would bring any person of any status into your room and have them go "well this is nice'"

Thats been my entire life even up until now, lol.....

That's one thing that's really been eating at me daily. I have everything I need, it just needs a permanent spot. As I'd walk around just to move a bit, its an older house too, so it was expected I'm fixing a few things too, so I'm safe moving around.....

My plan, is to get a hot shower, and probably not much after. Time depends, but I might sit, and layout the fin jig. I plan to use with Foam Board, and/or ayout the Av Bay/sled layout(I went to bed).

Theres also 2morrow(Its best time, lol), but I'm way ahead of the L2 attempt in April. Or with rain maybe May...

Michael B.

 

[86mustang408w]

Its a busy day, I'll be back this afternoon. To work on this L2 more.


But first, I'm gonna make some room and finish organizing. A little. Back with updates later, I'm not rushing it, so I'll post later. How id like to share not just text or photos. So, this was needed and still is.

Morning all,

Michael B. ..

 

[86mustang408w]

Sorting, probably all day but I had things in order at my other house. Its definitely more important to get this how I want it.

So today I need and want to sort this all out, its too much stuff in a small room to work efficiently, and still be productive. So that's the plan now, probably until 2morrow. Pains getting bad, for now it's break time. I want to get this setup like my other work spaces.

Thats the plan for now...

 

[86mustang408w]

Time to relax, this book is great I've read it 7 or 8 times I just love it, I do. I would like to read the Low Power Book he has as well, for sure.

But perfect timing now, time to study/listen after a break...I definitely want to go NAR L3. 100% sure, this thread and the flight. Will tell me yes, or maybe. I'm having fun, even reading way and continuing the Friday Nights, I always loved.

Good food, and some literature to read for a few hours.


Goodnight, all.

Michael B.

 

[Hobie1dog]

Time to relax, this book is great I've read it 7 or 8 times I just love it, I do.

But perfect timing now, time to study/listen after a break...I definitely want to go NAR L3. 100% sure, this thread and the flight. Will tell me yes, or maybe. I'm having fun, even reading way and continuing the Friday Nights, I always loved.

I'm enjoying reading about your renewed enthusiasm with rocketry, and cheering you on, especially going after the L3. YOU CAN DO THIS

 

[86mustang408w]

I'm enjoying reading about your renewed enthusiasm with rocketry, and cheering you on, especially going after the L3. YOU CAN DO THIS

Thank you.....


This morning, I'm going to finish organizing the tools/rocketry components.

But then around 11am or so, I need to make some phone calls for this. Then I can ,finally(It been eating at me not being able to check out some thing. But I'm sit down and build this L2. Slowy. I've been adding text, and I'll edit it.

This phone has a mind if its own lately, a new one is order as well.


Soon after my morning Coffee break, Finally. I have some money invested, its all good but certain things need time. Plus I did receive the wrong CRs, the new ones arrived in the mail when I was admitted to the hospita recently. It was for my full time disability claim in Pennsylvania. its going well this time.

Today I've been cleaning here, plus I re-newed my URRG High-Power membership. Plus talked with the clubs President about my goals are, but mostly getting some experience.

I'll be on High Power Pad One, all 4 days then learn to transport the BFR's, and to help setup as for LDRS42 in general. Its going to be awesome, Im going take some videos. Plus some flight/ground pictures/videos from a few of my flights.

Michael B. ..

 

[86mustang408w]

I'm making this, work. For me...lol..

I'll be done tonight, I need about 500 things
.lol..In reach to build..

Oh, got 10? Volunteer spots and LDRS42, @ URRG this year!

I'm really, waiting for my three favorite sisters this year.



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[Hobie1dog]

You got a lot of stuff

 

[86mustang408w]

You got a lot of stuff

I know....I'm still cleaning/organizing. Probably build tomorrow, this is and was a must. It may be my L3...

 

[86mustang408w]

I'm doing a little. Here's my ideas for this nosecone I need to sand the inside of the NC shoulder yet to take more out of the purpose bought "Stiffy", its late so text 2morrow..

Michael B...

 

[86mustang408w]

This is, as if now. This will be my Official NAR L3 attempt build as well...

I'm ready, so tomorrow ill dig into this.

 

[bobbyg23]

This is, as if now. This will be my Official NAR L3 attempt build as well...

I'm ready, so tomorrow ill dig into this.

Has it been approved by 2 taps?

 

[86mustang408w]

Has it been approved by 2 taps?

The Club President, as I was really getting volunteer spots during LDRS42 this June, not officially but after reading the rules it's a go.
So, ill post either way but thats the new goal, with the L2 Certification flight.

But it won't be until the plans are submitted for the L3 approval process.

We see come this April, then adust...Accordingly...

Michael B.

 

[86mustang408w]

THIS WILL, be my NAR, "L2/L3".

That was, but wasn't my intention(s). But with a fresh L3 build yet in 98mm.....


I have about, 6 total hours into this build itself. I'm still organizing, I have more, lol..

The new* thread, once...Things are officially confirmed will also have a link here. I'm going to be a "Supporter", I need to sign up for that today. Plus place few smaller orders for now.


I, will have links to URRG(its the perfect club, for me as well. So, I talked directly to the clubs President, first. Some, unexpected "twists". Plus my other Social Media Accounts(), and my new YouTube channel.

Longer, story short....

I, just turned 41....I Started flying at 7 years old.....


So today after shoveling "our", sidewalI'm working on sorting all my low/mid/high power things. "Today", its a "State of Emergency', temporarily...Here in Milton,

More text/pics as I'm moving forward, I have a few to get done too for LDRS, this year. My very first one, I was also approved for full time disability, in Pennsylvania..

.Then I will add text/pictures, like always on ALL of my threads.Now, "Michael's Rocketry". Will be making a soft "opening", probably at "LDRS-42"...@ URRG, in New York. We're I will personally be learning as an "L1", so after Larry found me a spot to try out, until I learn their ways...

I'll be on High Power Pad One, and learning the "ropes", to help assist any or all with BFR Setup's/Recovery. Its to help out with "Education".


Michael, B.......



"Can" idea, I own all Patent Rights, to any and all parts im making to assist me 2irh my physical disabilities...

 

[86mustang408w]

I'm going to start a new thread, this...Will be a dangerous rocket that someone could easily duplicate.

This is not, a joke.

I'm busy rn(right now for those learning, too as am I daily at 41.

So, this is the last "Official", L2 build thread post. But, it's here for others to learn.


You MUST, listen or pay attention. I have, many as usually.....Call's and emails to make as I've been approved for disability, and my "first", Patent is a go. So, busy again...lol!!!


"Michael's Rocketry", will be open, but not running for a few more months. Probably "Officially", 11/04/2024. The one Year Anniversary of my "Crazy", NAR L1 Attempt...lol.


More information later today.




Est 2013/2023.....




. .........!!! Yeah, I'll put the new L3 link here too, as well. Soon.

 

[rcktnut]

Parachute Can, interesting idea but I would make sure first that dropping those parts of the can free falling is not a violation of the safety codes. There are other potential problems I see with this method but will refrain from listing them now, unless you wish to hear them. Will be watching the ground testing in the future.
Recovery System. I will use a recovery system such as a parachute in my rocket so that all parts of my rocket return safely and undamaged and can be flown again.

 

[jamesr]

The Club President, as I was really getting volunteer spots during LDRS42 this June, not officially but after reading the rules it's a go.
So, ill post either way but thats the new goal, with the L2 Certification flight.

But it won't be until the plans are submitted for the L3 approval process.

We see come this April, then adust...Accordingly...

Michael B.

As an L3CC and TAP Chair, you can not submit your L3 design until you are L2. You can not start construction until you have the approval from you TAP or L3CC and you can't get that until you are L2. Listing to people here that spout misinformation is a very bad idea. If you have any direct questions for me, my information is available on both NAR and TRA websites. Stop listening to people that do not know what they are talking about

 

[jamesr]

As an L3CC and TAP Chair, you can not submit your L3 design until you are L2. You can not start construction until you have the approval from you TAP or L3CC and you can't get that until you are L2. Listing to people here that spout misinformation is a very bad idea. If you have any direct questions for me, my information is available on both NAR and TRA websites. Stop listening to people that do not know what they are talking about

I want to be clear, you need to take L2 test and pass, build and fly L2 rocket successfully. Then you will be eligible to start the L3 process, design and document your project. Submit it to L3CC or 2 TAP members for approval. Once you have the approval you can start building. It has to be a different rocket all together.

 

[kswing]

"Michael's Rocketry", will be open, but not running for a few more months

Good luck with your business. You might want to consider a different name as it may get confused with Michael's (michaels.com - fabrics/crafts/sewing) which also carries some small rockets.

Your parachute can also looks interesting. I guess you could chain 2 Chute Releases to provide redundancy? Many folks with large parachutes use deployment bags which serve a somewhat similar purpose.

 

[bobbyg23]

Good luck with your business. You might want to consider a different name as it may get confused with Michael's (michaels.com - fabrics/crafts/sewing) which also carries some small rockets.

Your parachute can also looks interesting. I guess you could chain 2 Chute Releases to provide redundancy? Many folks with large parachutes use deployment bags which serve a somewhat similar purpose.

2 chute releases does not provide redundancy. It just introduces another failure point. Then they would both have to work correctly to be successful. If either one fails, the release fails.

 

[kswing]

2 chute releases does not provide redundancy. It just introduces another failure point. Then they would both have to work correctly to be successful. If either one fails, the release fails.

I think you may have misunderstood. I meant 2 chute releases in series, not in parallel. One connected to the other so that if either release the circle is broken and the chute will be released.

 

[bobbyg23]

I think you may have misunderstood. I meant 2 chute releases in series, not in parallel. One connected to the other so that if either release the circle is broken and the chute will be released.

I did misunderstand

 

[cbrarick]

the NARF L3CC debated the use of chute releases for L3 certs. If my memory and understanding is correct, this would not be allowed.

Why?

1. No commercial M or above class motor has motor ejection. There's no way to get your nose cone off without some conventional method (a altimeter and black powder charge or CO2
2; The Jolly logic is designed for 36 inch chutes or above where the large rubber band encircles the chute. A 10-12 foot chute won't work
3. The Jolly logic user guide states that the system should not be shock loaded. (p.9 left hand side second paragraph) a large chute will, by it's own weight, act as a shock load when it is ejected
4. because the goal is redundant systems, preferably from different manufactures - in case there is something that would cause one to fail may cause the other to fail (eg a programming issue that your rocket uncovers). You can't do this with a chute release as the only possible backup is another chute release.

talk to your L3CC, but I believe I'm on point

 

[Art Upton]

many USLI have use the JLCR , as LCO I had looked at them going down... I was worried but they worked OK...

 

[cbrarick]

show me the line item in the AT/CTI 75/98 mm motors that tell you to load the ejection charge into the motor.

follow up: How are you going to get the nose cone off and with what redundant features if you're not using a altimeter with ejection charges wired to it.

if you got an answer, then maybe your recovery plan is ok

SLI maximum impulse is L, which you can do with a 54 mm motor that may have motor eject (but not all do, some are plugged)

 

[rcktnut]

I've been following this whole thread, the OP is/ was working on a L2 cert rocket. That's what this thread is all about. Somehow now I'm also confused as how this came to be an L3 build thread also, per OP's last few posts. OP has said he wished to do L3 after L2, only OP can clarify what's going on.

 

[bobbyg23]

I've been following this whole thread, the OP is/ was working on a L2 cert rocket. That's what this thread is all about. Somehow now I'm also confused as how this came to be an L3 build thread also, per OP's last few posts. OP has said he wished to do L3 after L2, only OP can clarify what's going on.

Because of this post.

 

[Aeva]

Time to relax, this book is great I've read it 7 or 8 times I just love it, I do. I would like to read the Low Power Book he has as well, for sure.

But perfect timing now, time to study/listen after a break...I definitely want to go NAR L3. 100% sure, this thread and the flight. Will tell me yes, or maybe. I'm having fun, even reading way and continuing the Friday Nights, I always loved.

Good food, and some literature to read for a few hours.


Goodnight, all.

Michael B.

Where did you find the NAR study materials? I didn’t know they had those things… I have the HPR book at least