Idea: Estes pro series MAX

[CoolRockets]

Hello everyone. I had the idea hat Estes could do a limited Pro Series MAX with high power rockets and stuff.

 

[Scott_650]

Maybe a Pro Series MAX+ line for LEO flights…

 

[ljwilley]

That would be cool, but I just cant seem to see Estes ever getting into high power.

 

[DigBaddy]

Estes makes their money on the motors they sell.

Extrapolate that to how much they'd make selling high power kits given their complete lack of high-power motors

 

[Pinetree]

It's just like dating a supermodel..




Fun to think about, but never gonna happen.

 

[tsmith1315]

Not sure that “dating” is the word I’d use, but yeah.

 

[Pinetree]

It's a family-friendly forum..


But yeah.

 

[Antares JS]

Not unless that Estes Energetics spin-off starts making retail HPR motors. Like DigBaddy said, the bulk of Estes's profit comes from their motors, not their kits.

 

[kuririn]

I think they learned their lesson with the PS II Nike Smoke and Mega Der Red Max.
Contracting Aerotech to make motors under the Estes name didn't go well when everyone realized they could buy the same motors from Aerotech, and cheaper to boot.

 

[DigBaddy]

I think they learned their lesson with the PS II Nike Smoke and Mega Der Red Max.
Contracting Aerotech to make motors under the Estes name didn't go well when everyone realized they could buy the same motors from Aerotech, and cheaper to boot.

I'm still holding some hope their Energetics division allows them to get into high power motors....but, it's a tiny sliver of hope.

 

[CoolRockets]

Maybe a Pro Series MAX+ line for LEO flights…

Lol

 

[smstachwick]

They’d have to find a way to get a significant leg-up on AeroTech, Apogee, U.S. Rockets, ASP, NCR, LOC Precision, Madcow…

After that, where is the profit motive in investing all that capital for a limited run? I’d assume it would be in an unrealistic price segment and the kits would be very slow sellers.

Funny side note: Apogee seems to think that the Mars Longship is a suitable match for CTI G150 motors. I think not…



https://www.apogeerockets.com/Model-Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-3-Model-Rocket-Kits/Mars-LongShip

 

[NOLA_BAR]

Not unless that Estes Energetics spin-off starts making retail HPR motors. Like DigBaddy said, the bulk of Estes's profit comes from their motors, not their kits.

I had always speculated that the Energetics division would be their route to composite motors. Not HPR, but F-G range motors to at least get some headroom on larger models.

 

[cls]

Estes could do a limited Pro Series MAX with high power rockets

many of us fly Pro Series II models with HPR motors. not all the models, and usually just H motors.