So now I know why the costs to ship is so high. Great video and worth watching and well explained https://www.apogeerockets.com/Shipping-Fees-Explained who can argue that Apogee is a fine company and has a very detailed website and well designed. The video is a good explanation why the costs are so expensive to have items shipped. He really does touch on some important aspects that most of us have experienced with other manufacturers. I guess the bottom line is whether or not you choose to buy from Apogee. I have in the past and was always happy with the service, but I only buy there when I need something I can't get elsewhere or as a last resort, its just not my "go - to " site to purchase items.