I liked the wind chimes. I thought it was clever.
On the plus side just got the new sport rocketry magazine. No wind chime ad on the back .
I liked the wind chimes. I thought it was clever.
Hence my comment about not turning my expensive Dr. Rocket's hardware into wind chimes. And I know the origin of the wind chime reference.The problem is it could be interpreted as, "Your Aerotech motor hardware you just bought is worthless now. Make it into a wind chime."
The problem is it could be interpreted as, "Your Aerotech motor hardware you just bought is worthless now. Make it into a wind chime."
It could also be interpreted as the easy peazy CTI hardware is now wind chime material because the new DMS motors are even easier. Glass half full, half empty sort of thing.
Truth be told the original wind chime message was clear as a bell to most people that have been flying HP for a while. It was a big FU and the horse you rode in on to a certain vendor and motor company that backed a silly and controversial program to rid the world of AT cases. I put it in the "if you have to ask" category and I am sure many people didn't.
Those folks on the back of the latest Sport Rocketry magazine Aerotech ad are mostly the current or past Tripoli BOD. I didn't recognize everyone but most, if not all are TRA folks.
I was around when Aerotech had their first presence here on the forum and what happened is the same thing that is happening now. This thread is getting loaded up with unnecessary comments. Can't blame them for not reading thru all the crap wondering when the thread will gt back on subject. Who the hell cares about the ads. I suppose they could spend thousands having it professionally done and add it on to their prices. Just saying better to keep this thread a little "cleaner" or we will not be hearing back from them.
Sounds like another "insider" reference.
Oh, well. I didn't mean to sidetrack the thread with my comments about the ad. It wasn't a complaint. It was offered more as unsolicited take-it-or-leave-it constructive criticism that maybe they can use to improve their ads and maybe get more value out of their marketing budget. I'm a volunteer "focus group" of one, offering free feedback on the consumer perception and reaction to the ad. Big companies pay to research that kind of thing.
I use the DMS motors, I like them a lot, and I recommend them to first-time HPR flyers. I just think the ads for these motors look amateurish, and the photos don't do anything to grab attention or reinforce the marketing message. It shouldn't cost too much to get something better.
The advantages of DMS:
No motor hardware: No upfront investment. No hardware at risk for riskier launches --- trying a new technique, making an altitude attempt, less than perfect flying conditions, etc. Makes clustering less expensive.
No assembly: Saves time. Get more launches in a day. Less need to prep ahead. Good for beginners. Lower risk of user error.
Is there a way the graphics could support those ideas?
Sounds like another "insider" reference.
Oh, well. I didn't mean to sidetrack the thread with my comments about the ad. It wasn't a complaint. It was offered more as unsolicited take-it-or-leave-it constructive criticism that maybe they can use to improve their ads and maybe get more value out of their marketing budget. I'm a volunteer "focus group" of one, offering free feedback on the consumer perception and reaction to the ad. Big companies pay to research that kind of thing.
I use the DMS motors, I like them a lot, and I recommend them to first-time HPR flyers. I just think the ads for these motors look amateurish, and the photos don't do anything to grab attention or reinforce the marketing message. It shouldn't cost too much to get something better.
The advantages of DMS:
No motor hardware: No upfront investment. No hardware at risk for riskier launches --- trying a new technique, making an altitude attempt, less than perfect flying conditions, etc. Makes clustering less expensive.
No assembly: Saves time. Get more launches in a day. Less need to prep ahead. Good for beginners. Lower risk of user error.
Is there a way the graphics could support those ideas?
TALON and Rcktnut - Many thanks for clearing this up. All of this makes much more sense to me now.
Charlie - A huge thanks to you for joining us and following up with our concerns. A great sigh of relief.
Thanks!
Dennis
I was one of the members who was ready to stop using Aerotech if the jethitch product hit the public. I am encouraged by your fast response to our concerns as well as to the opening of a direct line if communication here. Many have expressed a feeling that the communication to and from your company was non-existent. I hope that your participation in this community is not just a response to the jethitch backlash and that it will be a permanent thing. To that end might I suggest upgrading your forum membership to give you unlimited private message space? Already it seems your inbox has become full and this prevents members from contacting you privately. I want to state I am not affiliated with the forum and gain nothing from you paying a membership, I just feel in your position as the contact point for a major vendor keeping lines open is important.
Secondly, I fly both AT and CTI and one frustration I have with CTI is that due to their simplified plastic forward closure it is difficult to use them in minimum diameter rockets and even their tapped 54mm closure it's only for retention and can't be used to anchor recovery harnesses. I hope you consider these problems with your RMS-EZ line.
the comments regarding more colors for 29/40-120 and more hazmat free reloads are spot on. I throw a non hazmat load or two in every order I make. I now have 38 and 54mm AT hardware but have not flown it yet because of hazmat charges. waiting for LDRS so I can pick them up. my local vendor only sells CTI. Right now AT owns the market on 24 and 29mm motors, nobody can touch your prices. don't get lazy or you'll lose it.
USPS has a 25lb limit on hazmat (dangerous goods) whereas FedEx allows up to 70lbs.
Lets see, 38/720 and 1080 blue. Yep, thats the ticket. 1080 Dark Matter would be kool too. 54/2520 blue.. I can go on forever!! I would REALLY love to see the 98/15360 N2220 DM load brought back!!
FWIW, there can't be too many Red motors. It's simply not possible.
Charlie-It was a pleasure meeting you and talking at SpringFest. Thanks for the DMS motor and drilling the delay for me. It was so impressive I'm ordering 5 more! Two great pics were taken at liftoff and I hope to be back in October to re-create that flight (with a few mods!). Sorry I didn't get to thank you properly as I was hurriedly trying to get back into town to see about the rear window getting replaced. Needless to say, I was impressed to see you on the field as I'm sure the workweek just seemed extended to you over the weekend. Kudos again!
(p.s.-if you want the flight details, you have my card or just let me know if you want me to e-mail you. I picked up the remains on the way out and did the forensics back in San Diego. FWIW, the motor performed flawlessly, but I botched the mechanical interface.)
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