Bazookadale
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I've never understood why she stopped that - it was supposed to be a fight to the death!
I've never understood why she stopped that - it was supposed to be a fight to the death!
For visual effects nothing beats ZnS (micrograin). The problem is: typically the rocket and the flame are gone before you got to see it. Ohhh, these good old days:I honestly don't care how long motors take to assemble. I buy a motor because I like its performance/visual characteristics and it fits the rocket that I want to fly.
Joe, this is all in the spirit of "good, clean competition"...sometimes I think those days are long gone...the days when Vern Estes and Lee Piester exchanged catalogs and "crying towels".
I sincerely hope this thread doesn't degrade into personal attacks...
I've already been called an a**hole by Jeroen's boss as a result of this discussion.
For visual effects nothing beats ZnS (micrograin). The problem is: typically the rocket and the flame are gone before you got to see it. Ohhh, these good old days:
There is a 30 ft tower somewhere underneath there.
It takes even less time when you forget the casing.
-- Roger
Uhh...If this is all in good fun then why bring THAT up? Be the bigger man. Ignore the name calling and don't bring it up in an internet forum even if he does. Nothing fuels drama better than the addition of more drama.
-Dave
Well I agree with you. The point of the challenges is not to show that AeroTech motors assemble as fast as CTI, we all know that's not the case, just that there's not that great of a difference. I personally don't think it matters much that a motor takes 30 seconds or three minutes to assemble. Do people buy kits based on whether one takes 5 or 10 minutes longer to build than another? Others may disagree.
Someone once said "the journey is more important than the destination", or something like that?
Let's just say that this crap makes me very happy I own Loki hardware.
Let's just say that this crap makes me very happy I own Loki hardware.
Someone once said "the journey is more important than the destination", or something like that?
Well I agree with you. The point of the challenges is not to show that AeroTech motors assemble as fast as CTI, we all know that's not the case, just that there's not that great of a difference. I personally don't think it matters much that a motor takes 30 seconds or three minutes to assemble. Do people buy kits based on whether one takes 5 or 10 minutes longer to build than another? Others may disagree.
Someone once said "the journey is more important than the destination", or something like that?
For visual effects nothing beats ZnS (micrograin). The problem is: typically the rocket and the flame are gone before you got to see it. Ohhh, these good old days:
There is a 30 ft tower somewhere underneath there.
For visual effects nothing beats ZnS (micrograin). The problem is: typically the rocket and the flame are gone before you got to see it. Ohhh, these good old days:
There is a 30 ft tower somewhere underneath there.
OK, so which one of you is a Mac, and which one is a P.C.? :confused2:
Someone once said "the journey is more important than the destination", or something like that?
You can not post a picture like that and walk away ....
More information please for those of us who missed the good old days! Are there any videos?
See 'Pictures from the past (1) and (2)' here: https://home.planet.nl/~koste129/galleries.htm
I think the largest motor ever tested had around 400 lbs of propellant. Required a crane to be put in place. There was a lot of ZnS flown in the 70's-90's by Belgium/Danish and European Amateurs. I think it was also quite popular in the West of the US at the same time.
Just a note: do _NOT_ try this at home. It is extremely dangerous to mix and load and I have heard about way too many accidents. Certified composite reload kits are much safer.
Jeroen
ZnS motors are very cool. I had the opportunity to witness a number of flights at the MTA in California in the early '70s.
You saw some at Smoke Creek in the early 1980's as well.
Every manufacturer's products have issues from time to time...if you browse the forums you will see that they are certainly not limited to AeroTech. I apologize for any problems you have had with ours.
That said, we strive to make the best motors out there and to keep improving, and there are thousands of customers that are quite happy with AeroTech products.
I would be a much "happier" customer if you could come up with a better, more accuarte method/system/tool to dial back your delays, other than a 3/16 drill bit with a piece of tape and "eyeballing" the delay. Not very accurate, as has been mentioned in this thread. The less chance for operator error, the better. IMHO, CTI has Aerotech beat hands down in the delay department with the CTI delay tool. Any chance of producing something like this for Aerotech Gary?
It seems like it's possible. I think the following tasks could be completed in the time given:AeroTech/RCS will give a $500 AeroTech gift certificate to the first private individual who produces a video proving CTI's claim that a CTI 29 or 38mm motor can be assembled in 10 seconds or less.
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=126719&postcount=1
Video must show assembly from start to finish in real time including unpackaging the load, setting the reload's time delay to 10 seconds with the ProDat delay adjustment tool, installing the completed load in the casing and inserting and securing the igniter to the motor.
CTI owners, employees and dealers are not eligible.
It seems like it's possible. I think the following tasks could be completed in the time given:
Open package - 1 second
Drill delay - 3 seconds
Screw motor into the casing - 3 seconds
Insert igniter - 3 seconds
If I had a CTI motor handy I'd give it a try. Hmm, this may cause a run on purchasing CTI motors just to win the $500.
Dave
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