Level 2 cert Rocket suggestions

[NattyDread]

Ready for a level 2 cert and want a large, tall rocket, full electronics. Looking at polecat patriot 7.5. See link
https://stores.whatsuphobby.com/-strse-1/Polecat-Aerospace-7.5"-Patriot/Detail.bok

Probably most interested in kits. Any first hand suggestions? Thanks

 

[cbrarick]

Wildthing extreme, Wildman extreme, Darkstar extreme....
any of the 4 inch wildman kits will get you a 75 mm motor mount and all that room for electronics. A K will get you to 4200 - 5000 feet, so you'll see it all. The other nice thing is that it's fiberglass, so it
can't break easily.

of course I'm biased....

 

[MasonH]

LOC Warlock. I love mine and all I have done is open the box.

 

[GRIFFIN]

LOC Warlock. I love mine and all I have done is open the box.

He said electronics...........and tall.

 

[GRIFFIN]

+1 on the 4" fiberglass Wildman kits. You could also do a Vindicator 4 or a Non-Extreme Darkstar (if you wanted to stay at the 54mm and save a few bucks.)

 

[MasonH]

Adding electronics to a Warlock is easy. If he wants big and tall and complicated, he could get the Bruiser 3E, Big Nuke 3E, Magnum 3E, Hyperloc 1600, etc. No need to be an ass, Griffin.

 

[GRIFFIN]

Adding electronics to a Warlock is easy. If he wants big and tall and complicated, he could get the Bruiser 3E, Big Nuke 3E, Magnum 3E, Hyperloc 1600, etc. No need to be an ass, Griffin.

Just giving my opinion. If you want a "tall Warloc, with electronics", you will need to buy a payload and av-bay upgrade. The cost of all that will exceed most fiberglass kits in the 2.5"-4" range. My opinion is Fiberglass is a better material for high power rockets, I have several LOC kits and I think they are great kits. Others will have different opinions about fiberglass kits, and that's OK. I was just trying to make recommendations that fit the original requirements of tall and electronics.

Mason, if it makes you feel any better, I also recommend all of Madcow and Pro-line kits as well. The 4" Hellfire would make an Awesome L2 rocket.

-Jason- Who wasn't trying to sound like an ass

 

[Area66]

May be you should start by asking the budget .....

 

[NattyDread]

No budget limit. I have no other vices and my wife knows I am nutz anyway. Tall, big. Thanks

 

[cwbullet]

Low and slow - pick a kit like the Broken Arrow from Rocketry Warehouse - all fiberglass.

You can go high and fast after your cert flight.

 

[NattyDread]

In fact , the rocket is in the dining room and we r having a party tonight. See picture. I did marry UP!!!

 

[r1dermon]

when i was going to go for lvl 2, i got the binder design raptor. never got to build it. raptor/velociraptor would be a good choice for a lvl 2 J/K bird. wildman ultimate darkstar would be a siiiick lvl 2/3 bird also. cert on an L, that's boss status. lol.

 

[Jimmy F.]

Next RW kit I will buy is
AMRAAM 1/2 scale
https://rocketrywarehouse.com/product_info.php?products_id=366
can't beat the value for $179
only limit is the 54mm MMT, plenty good for any L2 attempt though

 

[flynfrog]

The polecat bird is a good choice

 

[dixontj93060]

In fact , the rocket is in the dining room and we r having a party tonight. See picture. I did marry UP!!!

OK; that is funny!!! Rich wife funding rocketry obsession...More power to ya!

 

[MasonH]

In fact , the rocket is in the dining room and we r having a party tonight. See picture. I did marry UP!!!

Is that a Little John?

 

[Area66]

Is that a Little John?

I think it's a Litltle John with an extended section

 

[NattyDread]

Yes, it's a little John. It has been damaged a bit and I have cut out sections and replaced them for repair. I started wrapping fiberglass around the top section because I launch at the Lucerne dry lake bed. It's like a giant piece of sand paper. The FG also saved me from a zipper on a late deployment. Ugly, though

 

[Handeman]

I like the LOC Bruiser-EXP at 7.5" and just over 9 ft tall. The suggestions for the fiberglass rockets are also good. I guess the question is do you want large diameter so you can fly it low and slow, or would the smaller diameter fiberglass that flies more high and fast be your choice?

A quick sim shows that flying an Aerotech L2200G in a 20 lb. 4" diameter rocket you're talking + Mach speeds and around 11.5K ft. The same motor in a 7.67" diameter rocket of the same weight will stay below Mach and get 5.5K ft.
Also, a low end motor for either would be like the Aerotech J415W in the 54/1280 case. It would push the 20 lb 4" rocket to 2,000 ft while getting the 7.67" diameter rocket to 1,500 ft.

What is your regular flying field like? Can it support the 10K altitudes of the 4" or would the 5K altitude of the 7.5" be better suited?

 

[Viperfixr]

Recommendations based on what you said so far: RW Formula 98, Wildman Darkstar 4" Dual Deploy, Wildman Darkstar Extreme or RW X-Celerator. Not a better or bad choice between the four--mostly depends what you like the most.

 

[jsargevt]

If you are looking for a non-fiberglass rocket (hey they are fun too!)

Binder Design Velociraptor is a great design and his kits are very nice. I am also partial to the galaxy as well but if I could only have one binder kit, the Velociraptor is the one.

If you are looking for some other large kits Performance Hobbies has their "Smokin' Rockets" line which has some fantastic upscales (7.5" Blue Bird Zero? 6" X-15? Yes, please!)

https://performancehobbies.com/secure/store.aspx?groupid=31920078512985

Just offering some ideas outside of the usual Fiberglass kits that are available. Nothing against those by any stretch of the imagination (I have a bunch myself!) but sometimes you just want something different.

 

[Mick2b]

Build what you will love to fly, I converted both a Madcow Super DX3 and a Patriot 4" to dual deploy. I used the DX3 for my cert flight and got about 3200 feet on a J381 skid. I still fly both of these models, lost of fun. Fiberglass is good as well so go with what you will enjoy flying many times over.

 

[jsargevt]

Build what you will love to fly.

This is the advice I was attempting to indirectly give. Find something YOU love, build it and fly with pride. I *almost* wish I had waited and built a J/K capable Sirius Saturn V to certify on but there are a number of skills I need to master before I attempt that.