Any Dooms day preppers here

[Pem Tech]

. I dont do gold or silver. I think there are better "barter items" that are worth their weight in gold.

Like alcohol, food and ammo.

 

[BEAR]

How are you going to spend this gold and silver?

I barter with gold and silver and have traded for a number of things using this process. Horse trading is fun. I also have cartridges, salt, coffee, sugar, chocolate, fishing tackle, cigarettes and whiskey to barter with as necessary. If it has value and would commonly be needed, I stock up on it. Even beef jerky and nuts. I always want to have something to trade with. I bought a rifle last summer for an oz. of gold. I think I got a steal. I was at a gun show last weekend and they wanted almost $6,000 for the same piece. That works for me!
I bought a 5000W generator on Craigslist last year that did not work. I paid $200 for it. I put a new fuel filter on it, new two lawnmower wheels, and rebuilt the carburetor. I got $900 for it when I sold it. Just get creative. I have a friend who is into model railroads. He has 14,000 pieces of rolling stock. Those cars are selling new for $40 each. I do not know who he will sell those to when the SHTF, but he is thinking of converting those into a more useful asset.

BEAR

 

[T-Rex]

As for shotguns, I prefer a 20ga, 5/8 of the load with less than half the recoil.
Yes, money/gold/silver/diamonds buried in cans in the backyard is important as well. Right now, until the rest of my tribe gets on board, I'll stock the pantry as best I can, and no that doesn't mean I have a thousand pounds of wheat and rice.

 

[JPVegh]

Gold and silver have never been worthless, that said I'd rather have a thousand dollars worth of ammo than a thousand dollars worth of gold. Paper money will still have some value after the SHTF, you will still need toilet paper after all.

 

[Marc_G]

We have a lot of new members in the year since the last major round of Prepper threads, so for those interested, here are two threads:

Who's a prepper?

Society ending? POLL

I was shocked how many of the forum denizens are convinced that the "SHTF" event is either likely or imminent, and are actively preparing for it. My shock was because I think only an extreme black swan event (asteroid impact, virulent nanotech, technological singularity etc.) will cause the wholesale collapse of our overall society and infrastructure in the general manner often talked about. But that's just my opinion... it's no more or less valid than any other.

I'm all for prepping for your local flavor of disaster (here in Indiana, I worry about extreme weather causing loss of utilities, or floods, or earthquakes... and of course Tornadoes but when they take your house they might take your prep stash). I think it's a bit silly to prep for the fall of society but again, folks would think some of my habits are silly. We all get to spend our time and money our own way.

I hope the threads listed here are interesting to those that haven't seen them previously.

Marc

 

[closet astronaut]

How are you going to spend this gold and silver?

You'r right on the money shrox, pardon the pun, but I think I know where you'r going with this, when there's no food, you can't eat gold. Actually I'm stocking up on toilet paper, toilet paper will be the medium of the future, but I guess if the dollar tanks we'll all have enough toilet paper any way.

Has any one here read: The Creature from Jykell Island? This is a great book on the history of money, the forming of the Federal Reserve and history on several major events through out history, including the sinking of the Lusitania, Waterloo, the Civil War, the first time fiat paper money was used in the colonies and several others, it should be required reading for every American. History repeats it self.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I'm more of a "Bad Day Prepper." I've got a well-stocked liquor cabinet and a collection of good movies, so when I have a bad day, I'm only a few cocktails and a movie away from making it all right again.

 

[aditat2]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has read "Creature from J.I." great book and I agree it should be REQUIRED reading. Disaster preparedness has been a way of live for my family for years. My wife is a Mormon and it is in their blood - so to speak. Before I met her I never really gave it much thought, but now days it's absolutely vital. Especially what with the way things are going in the world. I have hunted pretty much all my life and have taken steps to ensure that I have the capability to continue to do so no matter what happens. Grow a garden - use non-GMO seed so you can always plant another crop. Raise any livestock you can - chickens can be kept just about everywhere ( some cities do have ordinances against them but most allow hens but no roosters), a great source for protein from the eggs for 2-3 yrs or more , and when they stop laying they go to the stew pot. It's not crazy to want to be prepared.

 

[o1d_dude]

The first rule of doomsday preparedness is you don't talk about doomsday preparedness.

 

[closet astronaut]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has read "Creature from J.I." great book and I agree it should be REQUIRED reading. Grow a garden - use non-GMO seed so you can always plant another crop.

WHAT?? You don't buy Monsanto seed?? Shame on you.

 

[BEAR]

I have Creature from J.I., also. I also have a number other books on the topic also. I came across an excellent movie that can be watched on-line, along with a trailer, called "End of the Road, How Money Became Worthless". You can see the trailer at www.endoftheroadfilm.com.

It really is good. If you liked Creature, this will get you excited also.

A reason for gold and silver is the same reason the Jews had it in the 30'. The same reason the Cambodians and Viet Namese had it in the 70's and 80's, the Korean's had it in the 50's, and people have used it for thousand of years. It is your escape clause. When nothing else works, gold frequently will. When you have to move someplace else in the middle of the night, that is the one thing you can carry easily. When the storm is approaching and you have to get, and you can't take anything else, if you own it, you can easily carry $100,000 in gold in a coat pocket. When people are losing everything around them and they want to sell off their assets for money, and the currency is no good, they will take gold and you will have a car or a house or a farm or ranch for pennies on dollar. You are not trying to rip people off. They will be happy to get your gold and the exchange of wealth will continue on.
You certainly do not have to believe me, but if you are a student of history, then you know what I am writing could be our truth. History does repeat itself. Which side of the learning curve do you want to be on? I could be completely wrong, and I hope I am. But there still is the question, what if I am right? You know the old saying, better to have and not need than to need and not have. Study your history. If you are into religion, study the writings of Saint Malachy. He wrote a prophecy in the 12th century, IIRC, that says there will be 112 popes before the end. The current pope is 111. His prophecy is suppose to be somewhat accurate. We might be getting close. Now if it is a rapture, gold and silver will not be any good at all. But if there is mass confusion and chaos, riots, and other things that bring about TEOTWAWKI (The End Of The World As We Know It), then these preparations at home will be worth while. If you have a place to go, because you have to leave home, better still. But if it is a surprise to you, you are going to have issues. Again I am not saying I am right, but what if? Sorry for the people that are reading this who I am pissing off, but I am not the first to say this. Dr. Benjamin Carson at the National Prayer Breakfast said that a lot last week. If you have not seen his 12 minute speech, I recommend it, providing my words have any value to you.

BEAR

 

[cavecentral]

Kevin, you might consider gold and silver coins. They are a good hedge against inflation, whereas, if you have a savings account that is making 3% a year and inflation is 15% a year, your purchasing power is going backwards. The gold and silver goes up in value at about the same or better rate than inflation. (As you know, gold and silver has been used for money, by man for 6,000 years. The paper IOU's that we have today, only about a 120 years for the current currency. I know about Continentals and Greenback from the Civil War that were worthless, also, with the full faith and credit of the U.S. government.) If you care to learn more, PM me. I will answer your questions and not try to sell you anything. I am just trying to help people understand more about what is going on so they can prepare and help themselves. I would like to say more, but this is a rocketry forum.

BEAR

I range from various investments. Some point the gold has got to go down too. Not too much goes up 3-4 times as fast as gold did (Bubble?). I'm just pointing out that stockpiling food for a layoff (post #3) seemed odd to me. Trying to build a 3-6 month rainy day fund is a better choice.

I just wish I invested $10-20K in ammo / clips a few months ago. I could have a nice chuck of change now.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

Another good thing to have for Doomsday is a Cannibal Cookbook.

 

[harsas]

:eyeroll: The sky is falling, the sky is falling...

 

[Nathan]

I don't see any reason to prepare. I live so close to Wash D.C. that when North Korea drops nukes I'll probably get vaporized.

 

[Salvage-1]

Learn to hunt
Learn to fish
Learn which good food nature provides for free
Learn agriculture
Learn how to purify your own water.

As pointed out.. cash will be almost worthless. Also, what use is a generator when fuel will be limited? Water or steam turbines are easy to make and will provide electricity long after a gennie has died. Blackpowder and 'antique muzzleloaders' are far more valuable than any cartridge arms if society really collapses.

Most of all, learn to look after yourself.

just my 2c

 

[shrox]

You'r right on the money shrox, pardon the pun, but I think I know where you'r going with this, when there's no food, you can't eat gold. Actually I'm stocking up on toilet paper, toilet paper will be the medium of the future, but I guess if the dollar tanks we'll all have enough toilet paper any way...

No, you can't eat gold, but what will be the going price for a loaf a bread? Cut a sliver off of a Krugerrand, or maybe half a K, a whole K? Most people have no idea about how they would use their gold if it all collapses. How much of this gold bullion is worth that food?

 

[shrox]

Learn to hunt
Learn to fish
Learn which good food nature provides for free
Learn agriculture
Learn how to purify your own water.

As pointed out.. cash will be almost worthless. Also, what use is a generator when fuel will be limited? Water or steam turbines are easy to make and will provide electricity long after a gennie has died. Blackpowder and 'antique muzzleloaders' are far more valuable than any cartridge arms if society really collapses.

Most of all, learn to look after yourself.

just my 2c

Yes. Learn to live as pre-gun societies lived. Some of them even identified pi and formulated calculus...

 

[Salvage-1]

No, you can't eat gold, but what will be the going price for a loaf a bread? Cut a sliver off of a Krugerrand, or maybe half a K, a whole K? Most people have no idea about how they would use their gold if it all collapses. How much of this gold bullion is worth that food?

I may not be rich... but my ADD will be able to help me survive as a spotter...

"Oh look.. a deer!"

 

[T-Rex]

Keep in mind, there will be a LOT of people trying to hunt and fish for their food. Many of those people will never have held a firearm or bow before. In those conditions, a lot of people are going to get killed, and the wildlife population will be decimated in a short time.

I think that food, ammo, and TP will be the currency of the world if the poo hits the air mover, at least until society/civility can recover and rebuild. Sure it may be that the sky is falling, but consider the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl era, Potato Famine. These conditions can reoccur, however unlikely. Local or regional disasters can put you in a situation where you have to take care of yourself for a period of time.

I would rather have my pantry stocked, and a garden in the back yard, and invite my neighbor over for a good meal, than have it the other way around. To each his own. Believe as you will, it's your choice. I chose to believe this way.

 

[Getmore]

Another good thing to have for Doomsday is a Cannibal Cookbook.

Got that covered MOJO:grin:

 

[ClayD]

Yes. Learn to live as pre-gun societies lived. Some of them even identified pi and formulated calculus...

yes, the zulu, and vlad... are good examples of how to "protect yourself"... Just stake up some peole at the end of the road... no one is going to mess with you.

However, a brick of 22 rimfire... increases the chance you can reach out a few hundred yards.... Use the spear for the fluffy bunnies.

 

[shrox]

yes, the zulu, and vlad... are good examples of how to "protect yourself"... Just stake up some peole at the end of the road... no one is going to mess with you.

However, a brick of 22 rimfire... increases the chance you can reach out a few hundred yards.... Use the spear for the fluffy bunnies.

Eventually you'll run out of ammo.

Then it's back to the spear and arrow...plus your finely made and newly re-purposed metal, wood and plastic club. I guess a pistol with no ammo could be a hammer of sorts.

 

[BEAR]

Find some neighbors that think like you do and team up, that will multiply your results if you are successful. You have to look to the future and see what is coming. Easier said than done, but gets easier with practice. Read everything you can form all kinds of news sources, not just the alphabet news. See what will be news before it is, see what seems credible, and take notes. Those sources that are correct the most are the ones you watch, but always collect new sources from all sources, whether you agree or like them or not. Keep an open mind and think outside the box. Always ask questions to learn how things and why things work the way they do. Start asking what if, and make it near term to see if your predicted results work out. You will then know how accurate you are getting. Learn what the other side is saying. I do this 50 hours a week. And be prepared for those that do not prep, because they may become your adversaries. From observation, only about 1-3% of the population is prepping. If 97-99% are not, then I guess I am the presumed crazy person. This all remains to be seen though.

 

[alexzogh]

I am a meta-prepper.....

I keep a map of the preppers in my area and lot's of ammo :>

 

[Pem Tech]

:eyeroll: The sky is falling, the sky is falling...

My contribution is geared toward natural disasters and short term emergencies, which do happen.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I'm a Doomsday Prepper, and I'm proud
I used to feel alone in a crowd
But now you look around these days
And it seems there is a Doomsday Prepper CRAZE!

I'm a Prepper!
He's a Prepper!
She's a Prepper!
We're a Prepper!
Wouldn't you like to be a Prepper too?

I'm a Prepper!
He's a Prepper!
She's a Prepper!
We're a Prepper!
If you do prepping, you're a Prepper too!

Us Preppers are an interesting breed
Our survival skills are really all we need
Ask any Prepper and they'll say,
"Only preparing saves the day!"

I'm a Prepper!
He's a Prepper!
She's a Prepper!
We're a Prepper!
Wouldn't you like to be a Prepper too?

I'm a Prepper!
He's a Prepper!
She's a Prepper!
We're a Prepper!
Wouldn't you like to be a Prepper too?

Be a Prepper!
Prepare like a Prepper!

Come on!

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That's right!

Be a Prepper!
Prepare like a Prepper!

Oh, yeah!

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I am a meta-prepper.....

I never meta-prepper I didn't like.

 

[BEAR]

My contribution is geared toward natural disasters and short term emergencies, which do happen.

So what do you do when your natural disaster is still causing major problems five months later and you do not know when it will end, or the short term emergency turns into a long term event? The more self sufficient you can be and the less you have to depend on someone else would seem to be a goal to work towards.

 

[BEAR]

I never meta-prepper I didn't like.

:rofl: