Help Identify this Rocket

[Back_at_it]

Looking for some help in identifying a rocket. Got this one as part of a collection a couple of years ago and didn't know what it was.

Rocket was very nose heavy and looked to be flown due to residue and smell. Took it up to Bong to fly it and it was rewarded with an entertaining flight and a landing in a pond. At the time the ponds were deep and I had no way to recover it.

Fast forward a full year and I found myself launching at Bong. I walked over to the pond and it was dry with tall weeds growing. Knowing where it landed, I started looking around and there it was. I was just hoping to recover the nosecone. I had forgotten that the rocket was fiber glass.

It's looks an awful lot like the Custom Rocket Galaxy Taxi but this one has G10 fins and a fiberglass body tube with the heaviest plastic nosecone I've ever seen.

Anyone the brand or model?

 

[jd2cylman]

Can we see the post Bong water shot, ya know, for like, more info….

 

[jqavins]

Usually, as far as I've seen, threads like this get answers very quickly. (Not from me, mind you, but usually from someone.) The fact that no one has identified this one for you suggests that it may be a scratcher. Would that be plausible in light of whom you got it from?

Another possibility is that folks just failed to notice you'd asked. So, now I've bumped the thread for you. You're welcome.

 

[Back_at_it]

This was one of those random purchases off FB market place. A family was getting rid of their kids old stuff and had a bin full of rockets and parts. Most were old Semroc, Estes and Quest kits then there was this thing. This was in a large plastic tote with about 40 other rockets and the couple knew nothing about them.

I've gotten it torn down and most of the parts have been cleaned up. I want to do a restoration thread on it but have no clue what to call it.

The parts are very heavy duty and you can tell that it was a kit as all of the fiberglass was machine cut. I weighted the parts and I'm at 10oz before assembly and the darn thing is only 12 inches tall.

Thanks for the bump.

 

[jqavins]

As for a thread title, just give the rocket your own name, whatever the model name may have been. "Heavy Mystery" comes to mind.

 

[jd2cylman]

I like Otis. Yeah, name it Otis…

 

[Cape Byron]

It looks like a Rocket Vision Star Fire to me. That would explain the heavy nose cone and body tube, but I've been wrong before.

 

[neil_w]

It looks like a Rocket Vision Star Fire to me. That would explain the heavy nose cone and body tube, but I've been wrong before.

Winner: https://www.rocketreviews.com/rocket-vision-star-fire-r-j-talley.html

And now I've just learned of yet another old rocket vendor that I had never heard of before.

 

[Cape Byron]

Winner: https://www.rocketreviews.com/rocket-vision-star-fire-r-j-talley.html

And now I've just learned of yet another old rocket vendor that I had never heard of before.

See? Sometimes I'm helpful and not just annoying.

 

[Back_at_it]

Guys that is absolutely it. Go figure. A rocket I have never heard of from a brand I have never heard of.

I can tell you that this is one hell of a tough little rocket as it spent an entire year under water and ice during the winter and survived.

Now that I know what it is I’ll need to get my butt in gear with a restoration thread.

Need to see if I can put my hands on some more rockets from that manufacture

 

[Back_at_it]

Interesting. The review states that this Rocket recommends a D12-7 motor only and mine had an 18 mm mount in it when I got it.

Interesting that it was incredibly unstable on a C5-3. I can only assume that it would have been more unstable on a 24 mm.

 

[jqavins]

Did it skywrite or weathercock? If the latter, maybe a Q-Jet D? (I don't know about their initial thrust, and I can't get to thrustcurve.org at the moment. DNS error.)

 

[Back_at_it]

Oh it was a sky writer which shocked the hell out of me with that heavy nosecone. Sitting in the pond for a year destroyed the all of the internals so the motor mount came out of it when I removed the motor.

It will be going back together with a 24mm mount as it's way too heavy for anything 18mm except the Q-Jet's. Should fly nicely on a D12. If not there is always the E20 and E30

Just need to wrap up my Brighton build before I get to work on this one but it's coming next.

 

[jqavins]

I asked because if it had weathercocked then higher thrust would probably be the answer, but in the skywriting case if may be the simple CG and CP relationship, in which case the heavier motor would make it worse. I guess that's why the nose cone is so heavy. Just be sure that it doesn't need even more ( ) nose weight before you fly it with a heavier motor.

 

[Back_at_it]

I asked because if it had weathercocked then higher thrust would probably be the answer, but in the skywriting case if may be the simple CG and CP relationship, in which case the heavier motor would make it worse. I guess that's why the nose cone is so heavy. Just be sure that it doesn't need even more ( ) nose weight before you fly it with a heavier motor.

I'm thinking it's going to need more nose weight but I'm going to try to build a sim in OR. I can weigh all of the various pieces so I should be able to get close. Moving to a D is only going to make the CG/CP issue worse.

 

[dhbarr]

I think that tube should be garolite and a 24mm HMF tube from BMS should just barely slide in.

 

[BigMacDaddy]

Anyone know what rocket this is? Thank you in advance... (Note: Bit difficult to estimate size of rocket but I am estimating 2-3" BT from other rockets that I could identify).

(Hope it is ok to use this as an open "Help Identifying Rocket" thread).

 

[dhbarr]

Anyone know what rocket this is? Thank you in advance...

(Hope it is ok to use this as an open "Help Identifying Rocket" thread).

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Possibly a cut-down Aerotech Cheetah, or a scratch inspired-by.


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[jqavins]

It looks like BigMacDaddy's rocket has forward swept trailing edges on the fins, so it's not a cut down Cheetah. Still could be inspired by one.

 

[rfjustin]

Anyone know what rocket this is? Thank you in advance...

(Hope it is ok to use this as an open "Help Identifying Rocket" thread).

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https://locprecision.com/products/onyx

 

[hball55]

Guys that is absolutely it. Go figure. A rocket I have never heard of from a brand I have never heard of.

I can tell you that this is one hell of a tough little rocket as it spent an entire year under water and ice during the winter and survived.

Now that I know what it is I’ll need to get my butt in gear with a restoration thread.

Need to see if I can put my hands on some more rockets from that manufacture

Sorry, but Rocketvision has been defunct for some time now.

 

[BigMacDaddy]

Possibly a cut-down Aerotech Cheetah, or a scratch inspired-by.


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Thanks -- yeah, Cheetah came up in my image search since paint is similar. Bit hard for me to estimate how big body tube is but I am guessing 2-3" or so.

 

[rfjustin]

Thanks -- yeah, Cheetah came up in my image search since paint is similar. Bit hard for me to estimate how big body tube is but I am guessing 2-3" or so.

See link I posted above for the LOC Onyx. That kit is 3" and looks like a winner to me based on your photo.

 

[BigMacDaddy]

See link I posted above for the LOC Onyx. That kit is 3" and looks like a winner to me based on your photo.

Thank you -- At first glance it looked like the fins had forward swept trailing edges but it is difficult to tell. Onyx is a good option as might be a chopped down Cheetah...

 

[jqavins]

It still looks that way to me, but I guess it is hard to tell. I take it the picture is not of your rocket; obviously you would know about the fin shape.

 

[boomtube-mk2]

Anything but Sue.

 

[dhbarr]

NC looked a little short to be a Cheetah, but it's hard to tell where the shoulder is.

 

[icyclops]

Anyone know what rocket this is? Thank you in advance... (Note: Bit difficult to estimate size of rocket but I am estimating 2-3" BT from other rockets that I could identify).

(Hope it is ok to use this as an open "Help Identifying Rocket" thread).

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Looks like a Big Daddy with modified fins.

 

[neil_w]

I dunno about the size.

 

[BigMacDaddy]

It still looks that way to me, but I guess it is hard to tell. I take it the picture is not of your rocket; obviously you would know about the fin shape.

Correct - Going to buy some mid-powered rockets on Tuesday - this was one so was wondering what it is so I can figure out what it should have with it. The person who is selling them bought a collection and does not seem to know all the rockets.