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Eggtimer Rocketry is proud to announce its latest product, the Eggtimer Proton Advanced Flight Computer. With SIX output channels and a 120G accelerometer, it fits the bill for flyers that are building more complex projects, or simply would like more data than what they can get out of a baro-only altimeter. Whether you're doing simple dual deploy or want to go full Falcon 9 with multiple airstarts and servo-deployed landing legs, the Proton can do it!

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Specs are:
o $70 for the kit... it's the least expensive flight computer with an accelerometer
o WiFi-enabled for all functions... programming, arming/disarming, downloading, deployment testing
o SIX outputs, all independent... no dedicated "main" or "drogue" channels
o 120G accelerometer
o Baro sensor, range -5000' to +60,000'
o Outputs are rated at 10A, up to 40V (separate output battery supported, or you can use a single battery)
o Outputs are overcurrent protected... they'll shut down to save the drivers
o Outputs are protected for overvoltage, undervoltage (about 4V, prevents sags from resetting the logic), and thermal overload
o Servo support for deployments on first three channels, with separate servo logic-level outputs
o Dual-switched outputs (like the Quantum), outputs are essentially dead until you're in flight (continuity trickle current is < 100 microamps)
o Full airstart support on all channels, with velocity@time, altitude@time, and baro:accelerometer off-axis detection, plus breakwire support
o Clustering function... multiple channels can be fired together, and can be combined so that if one isn't ready then none of them will fire
o Won't arm unless it's pointing "up" and you enter the special arming code... virtually impossible to arm accidentally
o Tons of post-flight data available for data junkies
o Size: about 31mm x 83mm, 20 grams. Fits easily into a 38mm coupler.

Availability will be mid-Nov, just in time for the World Famous Eggtimer Rocketry Holiday Sale. As such, we're going to be selling them for $55 instead of the $70 list price, starting immediately and running to the end of the sale (Nov. 26th, the Monday after Thanksgiving).

As usual, thanks for all your support!

Cris Erving, Eggtimer Rocketry
 
Amazing work Cris. I will be doing some shopping....

Also, can we assume this will be TRA approved to be used without a separate switch? Just like the Quantum?
 
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Amazing work Cris. I will be doing some shopping....

Also, can we assume this will be TRA approved to be used without a separate switch? Just like the Quantum?

I'll reach out to them, but yes, it has the same dual-switched architecture as the Quantum. There are a few differences, all good... the total system current is rated to 30A instead of 20A, and the continuity trickle current is 100 uA instead of about 500 uA.
 
Amazing work Cris. I will be doing some shopping....

Also, can we assume this will be TRA approved to be used without a separate switch? Just like the Quantum?

If Cris would write a justification, I’ll add it as an agenda item. Our next meeting is two weeks from today. The WiFi switch was relatively easy to approve because it was a separate circuit and left any downstream electronics completely powered down. Having the switch on the same circuit board might introduce other potential issues that we must understand before approving it. A block diagram showing major functional components would help.
 
Availability will be mid-Nov, just in time for the World Famous Eggtimer Rocketry Holiday Sale. As such, we're going to be selling them for $55 instead of the $70 list price, starting immediately and running to the end of the sale (Nov. 26th, the Monday after Thanksgiving).

I need at least two of these! Can these be ordered through your site?
 
Looks very nice, another great addition to your lineup. A coupe of quick questions: what is the sample rate of the recorded data and is the data collected configurable? Looks to be a great option for complex flight profiles.


Tony
 
Looks very nice, another great addition to your lineup. A coupe of quick questions: what is the sample rate of the recorded data and is the data collected configurable? Looks to be a great option for complex flight profiles.


Tony
The sample rate is variable, just like the Quantum. The "up" side goes from 10-33 samples/sec (default is 20), the "down" side goes from 1-10 samples/sec (the default is 2). Both the baro and accel sensors are sampled at the same time. The accelerometer that we're using has a built in filter, it does a pretty amazing job of getting rid of the noise that you often see with accelerometers. I was all ready to do some trickery to make it sample at a much higher rate between baro samples to get rid of the noise, but it was not necessary. Note that we're not promoting it to be used for motor qualifications, you'd want something in the hundreds of samples per second for that, but if you're flying a research motor and you want a pretty good indication of what it's doing the 33 samples/second setting would probably get you there.
 
This is exactly what I was in the market for! I will be placing my order for sure.

thanks Cris, nice work
 
Sent an order email in. These look great! I have a multi-stage project they would be great for.
 
Will require assembly like your other products?
Yup. It's more complex than a Quantum just because there are a lot more parts (they're mostly on the bottom), but if you can build a Quantum you shouldn't have any problems with the Proton.
 
Are any channels servo capable during boost?

You can't actuate servos during boost. The problem is that there isn't enough time in the boost interval (typically 50 ms at 20 samples/sec) to get enough 20 ms servo pulse cycles in, it ends up being very jerky or it won't work reliably. I tried it during the Quantum's development and quickly abandoned the idea. During descent your interval between samples is typically 500 ms or even 1000 ms, so you can get a ton of pulses off to the servo before you have to pause to read the sensors and do other housekeeping.

It could be done with a separate servo controller that sends out pulses when turned "on" like an igniter... I think SparkFun and Pololu have them.
 
Nice indeed. I see the usual Rx,Tx,Gnd pins. Does it do live telemetry? And what does it send? Velocity and altitude? I think I'll go ahead and get me one.
 
Nice indeed. I see the usual Rx,Tx,Gnd pins. Does it do live telemetry? And what does it send? Velocity and altitude? I think I'll go ahead and get me one.
Telemetry will be in the next release, early next year, it will be enhanced over the other altimeters. There will be a companion LCD receiver firmware release to go with it.
 
Very clean interface that works with almost anything through your web browser. You have got to love the built in tilt-o-meter! look how easy it is to set the outputs to do what you want:
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You took the Quantum and made it great. Add telemetry, and now it looks like you made my dream altimeter for a very reasonable price. This is awesome!!!
 
Awesome work Chris! Is there a way the enter flight mode while also being able to trigger outputs. Thinking using it as the launch controller on a Boyce Nike Hercules for the 4 engine cluster, then ignite 2nd stage and finally deploy main chute at set altitude!
 
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