stealth6
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I REALLY hate to do this, but in the interests of protecting all the good people on this forum from scams.......
Let it be known that you all must be careful and avoid any dealings with a guy named Travis Fish - who most recently goes by the name "pilotguy2008" on the forum. He is - in my opinion and experience - at best a flake, a HORRIBLE communicator, and a very poor business partner. At worst, and all the evidence seems to be supporting this, he is a liar, a thief, a scammer, and a rip-off artist.
This guy has now, it seems, done a number on us at least twice - once under the name of pilotguy2008, and once under the name skeetshooter410. Even worse it seems like he may have scammed one of our best vendors as well, taking advantage of their VERY cool customer service. This guy is bad news.
And yes, I've been a first hand victim - he has my money and I've got nothing to show for it. The ironic thing of course is that I'm the guy who started the "TRF Good Sellers/Buyers" thread ( https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?34817-TRF-Good-Buyers-Sellers ) wherein I want to both celebrate all the great folks who do business honestly around here, as well as to have a place where folks can gain a good reputation and buyers could see who they could do business with in confidence. I should have followed my own thread and not done business with this "new" guy (who hadn't had any history to show on that thread).
These threads outline some of this guy's path of destruction here:
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showt...nd-other-equipment-LOC-AIM-USB-Several-others!
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showt...nd-other-high-power-stuff&p=333824#post333824
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?59416-Lots-and-Lots-of-kits!
I honestly felt pretty bad about the treatment this guy was getting at first. It SEEMED like folks were jumping the gun and accusing him way too early. I thought he was getting a bad rap. I even "took his side", contacting him letting him know that, and tried to help him out with what could have been useful information to him. But it now seems clear the I'M the one who was duped, and that he deserved all the accusations, distrust, and bad will directed at him.
Let's all be careful and not let this guy dupe us again. Find out who you are dealing with if it's someone new, and make sure it's not Travis Fish.
I realize that at least one person seems to have "got what he paid for". That person actually gave a positive recommendation for pilotguy on the Good Sellers thread. I've actually had a brief communication with him, and I'm glad things worked out for him. But it seems like EVERYONE else has been ripped off. And something seems fishy about this. I welcome anyone else who may have had good business dealings with this guy to come forward - please tell us the details and prove me wrong. Especially if you are "regular" around here - sorry to be suspicious but if you've only got a couple of posts on the forum and those only consist of a "great deal" you got from him, then I smell a rat. If there is sufficient evidence to show that this guy is actually legit and honest, then I'll gladly delete this post, ask the mods to delete the thread, and offer up a very public apology. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen.
And "pilotguy" - I'm calling you out. I KNOW for a fact that you are monitoring this forum, and I know for a fact that you are refusing to answer any of the questions you are being asked here. Sure, you might post a quick "don't worry, your stuff is on the way" message, but these always seem to be nothing other than more bulls#*t from you. Come forward, prove me wrong, PROVE that you have not stolen people's money, and PROVE that you are not a scam. You give everyone a sob story and promise good things, but in the end all the good folks around here are left holding the bag. So, I'm going to even "go too far" and be direct and personal:
You are a liar, a thief, and a scam (scum). Prove to me that I'm wrong.
VERY IMPORTANT!! - Please do NOT confuse this guy with "tfish", who happens to be a great TRF member and who has NOTHING AT ALL to do with any of this. He just happens to have a similar TRF "handle". Again tfish is NOT "Travis Fish", and he IS a good guy.
Again, I'm really sorry to immerse myself in all this nasty, negative stuff here. But this guy is bad news, and we have to call him out.
And lastly, THANKS TO ALL THE TRF FOLK who are honest & decent, who do good business on this forum, who deal fair & square, and who make this forum such a great one. It's too bad when someone like this comes around and poisons the well. Please everyone, let's refer to this thread whenever you enter into a new business relationship via the forum - https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?34817-TRF-Good-Buyers-Sellers. There are LOTS of really good folks to buy/trade/sell with around here. But Travis Fish is in no way one of them.
peace and rockets (to everyone except "pilotguy"), s6
Let it be known that you all must be careful and avoid any dealings with a guy named Travis Fish - who most recently goes by the name "pilotguy2008" on the forum. He is - in my opinion and experience - at best a flake, a HORRIBLE communicator, and a very poor business partner. At worst, and all the evidence seems to be supporting this, he is a liar, a thief, a scammer, and a rip-off artist.
This guy has now, it seems, done a number on us at least twice - once under the name of pilotguy2008, and once under the name skeetshooter410. Even worse it seems like he may have scammed one of our best vendors as well, taking advantage of their VERY cool customer service. This guy is bad news.
And yes, I've been a first hand victim - he has my money and I've got nothing to show for it. The ironic thing of course is that I'm the guy who started the "TRF Good Sellers/Buyers" thread ( https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?34817-TRF-Good-Buyers-Sellers ) wherein I want to both celebrate all the great folks who do business honestly around here, as well as to have a place where folks can gain a good reputation and buyers could see who they could do business with in confidence. I should have followed my own thread and not done business with this "new" guy (who hadn't had any history to show on that thread).
These threads outline some of this guy's path of destruction here:
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showt...nd-other-equipment-LOC-AIM-USB-Several-others!
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showt...nd-other-high-power-stuff&p=333824#post333824
https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?59416-Lots-and-Lots-of-kits!
I honestly felt pretty bad about the treatment this guy was getting at first. It SEEMED like folks were jumping the gun and accusing him way too early. I thought he was getting a bad rap. I even "took his side", contacting him letting him know that, and tried to help him out with what could have been useful information to him. But it now seems clear the I'M the one who was duped, and that he deserved all the accusations, distrust, and bad will directed at him.
Let's all be careful and not let this guy dupe us again. Find out who you are dealing with if it's someone new, and make sure it's not Travis Fish.
I realize that at least one person seems to have "got what he paid for". That person actually gave a positive recommendation for pilotguy on the Good Sellers thread. I've actually had a brief communication with him, and I'm glad things worked out for him. But it seems like EVERYONE else has been ripped off. And something seems fishy about this. I welcome anyone else who may have had good business dealings with this guy to come forward - please tell us the details and prove me wrong. Especially if you are "regular" around here - sorry to be suspicious but if you've only got a couple of posts on the forum and those only consist of a "great deal" you got from him, then I smell a rat. If there is sufficient evidence to show that this guy is actually legit and honest, then I'll gladly delete this post, ask the mods to delete the thread, and offer up a very public apology. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen.
And "pilotguy" - I'm calling you out. I KNOW for a fact that you are monitoring this forum, and I know for a fact that you are refusing to answer any of the questions you are being asked here. Sure, you might post a quick "don't worry, your stuff is on the way" message, but these always seem to be nothing other than more bulls#*t from you. Come forward, prove me wrong, PROVE that you have not stolen people's money, and PROVE that you are not a scam. You give everyone a sob story and promise good things, but in the end all the good folks around here are left holding the bag. So, I'm going to even "go too far" and be direct and personal:
You are a liar, a thief, and a scam (scum). Prove to me that I'm wrong.
VERY IMPORTANT!! - Please do NOT confuse this guy with "tfish", who happens to be a great TRF member and who has NOTHING AT ALL to do with any of this. He just happens to have a similar TRF "handle". Again tfish is NOT "Travis Fish", and he IS a good guy.
Again, I'm really sorry to immerse myself in all this nasty, negative stuff here. But this guy is bad news, and we have to call him out.
And lastly, THANKS TO ALL THE TRF FOLK who are honest & decent, who do good business on this forum, who deal fair & square, and who make this forum such a great one. It's too bad when someone like this comes around and poisons the well. Please everyone, let's refer to this thread whenever you enter into a new business relationship via the forum - https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?34817-TRF-Good-Buyers-Sellers. There are LOTS of really good folks to buy/trade/sell with around here. But Travis Fish is in no way one of them.
peace and rockets (to everyone except "pilotguy"), s6