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WOOOTTTTT!!!! YES YES YES YES!!!!! Potter NY and URRG is a mere 5 hr drive from where I live and easy to get to. I wouldn't even need a hotel although I may reserve a room regardless. Definitely going for that!! I believe the nearest hotel is in Penn Yan, although there might also be something in Dundee, I will have to check.
 
techrat said:
WOOOTTTTT!!!! YES YES YES YES!!!!! Potter NY and URRG is a mere 5 hr drive from where I live and easy to get to. I wouldn't even need a hotel although I may reserve a room regardless. Definitely going for that!! I believe the nearest hotel is in Penn Yan, although there might also be something in Dundee, I will have to check.
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Penn Yan is a nice little town,there's a great restaurant down town on Main St.called Parker's Grill and Tap Room.Great food, good beer selection really nice atmosphere.
 
skaffgeorge2 said:
Check with URRG's website.I only flew LPR at URRF 9 and everything went perfectly.There are quite a bit of LPR flyers at a URRG event, plenty of younger kids plus everyone in between
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At URRG's "URRF" event just a few weeks back, they had a nice LPR set-up, so no worries there. Syracuse Rocket guys were there giving away little estes rockets to kids who were allowed to fly under parental supervision. I perused their broken rockets, and they were selling a 4", 5-foot, slightly modiied LOC IV that was damaged for a mere $15. So I bought it. Took it home, fixed it and flew it 2 weeks later at Metra as "Cheap Thrills".
 

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How do they schedule the LPR flights vs. the big stuff? Are there particular days when most of the LPR gets flown, or is it all intermingled? Trying to understand how it works, never been to a large launch like that before.
 
neil_w said:
How do they schedule the LPR flights vs. the big stuff? Are there particular days when most of the LPR gets flown, or is it all intermingled? Trying to understand how it works, never been to a large launch like that before.
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At URRF, they had left side launch pads and right side Launch pads. When the left side is cold, the right side is hot, and vise-versa. So set up takes place on the cold side, while the hot side is launching. The LPR saw-horses are closest to the control area with MPR/HPR further out in the onion field. So, depending upon if LPR is right or left, you'll get your turn when they switch sides.
 
neil_w said:
How do they schedule the LPR flights vs. the big stuff? Are there particular days when most of the LPR gets flown, or is it all intermingled? Trying to understand how it works, never been to a large launch like that before.
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You're right,it'basically intermingled, there's no real predetermined order.the way it generally works is that they'll clear off a rack or two and then shut down the range so people can go an retrieve, they also use that time for others to set up their mid power and high power models.
 
techrat said:
At URRF, they had left side launch pads and right side Launch pads. When the left side is cold, the right side is hot, and vise-versa. So set up takes place on the cold side, while the hot side is launching. The LPR saw-horses are closest to the control area with MPR/HPR further out in the onion field. So, depending upon if LPR is right or left, you'll get your turn when they switch sides.
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Yes,you're right.Where they have the LPR racks is just about perfect, and the mid power's are right where they should be.And if the weather is clear visibility is great there.
 
darrenf said:
Any idea if we will be able to stay overnight there in an RV?
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Not on the field, but there are 2 campgrounds not too far away, however neither is within walking distance....so you'll want to bring a car
 
cbrarick said:
Not on the field, but there are 2 campgrounds not too far away, however neither is within walking distance....so you'll want to bring a car
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Okay, no camping, but can I arrive each morning in the RV. My wife has MS so she needs the comforts with her, especially if it's a warm day, that causes her body to shut down.
 
I'd give them a email. I'm not a board member and can't speak for them, but I've not seen those type of vehicles on the field (other then the Wildman's) Also be aware that if there is rain the field becomes impassible fast - especially with heavier vehicles. It's a old peat bog, things sink quick. My rule is that when it sprinkles, I leave, and that's with a 1 ton 4x4 pickup.
 
I'm hoping to go. If anything, I'll be booking my hotel room within the next couple weeks. I last went to LDRS 28, and I loved it.
 
What hotel will be the "main hotel" for people to stay at? I'm looking at staying in Geneva so that we are close to her family but also to the launch.
 
URRG is my main summer field that my family flies at, so it is wonderful to have LDRS be a home event next year!!

Lots of great questions as people start to plan for this event.

The field is amazing and huge. The total recovery area (plowed fields) is about 1 x 2 miles. The timing (early June) is chosen for the fact that the Torrey family will not have started planting yet, so the entire location will be open to flying and recovery. This year at URRF, that meant the away away cell could handle up to a complex P motor (Dan Michaels flew his full size Patriot on 5 x N3300s this year from that cell). URRG ran URRF this year specifically as a trial run for LDRS, so they worked out a lot of the kinks (it was excellent!!).

While the waiver is for 18,000 feet, weather in the valley will dictate the daily ceiling. I think we had one day at URRF when the waiver was opened up to the limit, but most days it hovered around 12,000 feet due to clouds and wind.

As noted in earlier threads, the range is divided up into 3 sections: a left and right section near the flight line and a BFR section farther out. The near sections can be loaded and launched simultaneously (when left is hot, right is cold and vice versa) and can handle up to M motors up to 10,000 feet. For all the near cells, 1010 and 1515 rails are available and for the BFR cells, 1515 and Unistrut are available. One of the hydraulic lifts can handle 1515 and Unistrut and the big hydraulic lift (way away cell) was only Unistrut this year.

@neil_w to answer your questions about the low power cells - they are truly awesome. Larry (@Larry W), the club president, worked super hard over last winter to build a bunch of brand new, custom low power racks and these things are really works of art. Lots of time and welding went into these racks! They can handle any size rod and micro and mini rails. All the rods are stored in the frame of the rack, so fliers can change them out as needed. Each rack has 8 positions, so there are always plenty of spaces to fly as many low power rockets as you can bring! Check out @markg 's photos and you can get a great view of the low power racks. (Awesome photos Mark!)

Day 1 - https://adobe.ly/3Co98af
Day 2 - https://adobe.ly/43VZS9i
Day 3 - https://adobe.ly/43BDQIT

As far as bringing an RV on the field, there is a lot of room in the back of the parking area, but, as Rick noted, if it rains, good luck. This is a good caveat for everyone coming. It is a plowed field (this year, it was a plowed onion field) so it is exactly what you think - loose dirt. It rained all day Friday this year, so it was a muddy mess. The good thing is, the field dries out quickly, but then you have dust. This is the tradeoff for having 2 square miles of unfettered recovery area! :) Plan accordingly and, if it rains, be aware of what vehicle you are going to try and bring to launch site. Also, as many rocketeers are used to, this means no shade on the field. It is wide open. Bring something to cover your site. It can get windy in the valley, especially at night. Make sure you bring equipment to tie that EZ-UP securely to the ground in relatively loose soil if you are going to leave it up over night.

For big rockets, I am not sure there is a better place to fly east of the Mississippi. I know Dan plans to bring the Patriot back and add an O5500 to the center mount. I have a 400 pound 12" diameter rocket planned to go up on an O5500 and a 6 x 75mm cluster in addition to my normal bevy of Goblins, Pikes and whatever else I cook up between now and next June. And there will be way more than those to come see!

All in all, every URRF event is worth the travel, but this will make it even more of a must-attend for 2024!
 
mtnmanak said:
@neil_w to answer your questions about the low power cells - they are truly awesome. Larry (@Larry W), the club president, worked super hard over last winter to build a bunch of brand new, custom low power racks and these things are really works of art. Lots of time and welding went into these racks! They can handle any size rod and micro and mini rails. All the rods are stored in the frame of the rack, so fliers can change them out as needed. Each rack has 8 positions, so there are always plenty of spaces to fly as many low power rockets as you can bring!
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Needless to say it all looks and sounds awesome. Do you happen to know if E motors are allowed off the LPR pads? The large field would give me a rare chance to give my 24mm rockets some serious air.
 
neil_w said:
Needless to say it all looks and sounds awesome. Do you happen to know if E motors are allowed off the LPR pads? The large field would give me a rare chance to give my 24mm rockets some serious air.
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E motors are allowed on the LPR pads - if I remember correctly, you can fly MPR off the racks as well up to a G, but the next rack out can also handle some 1/4" rods as well as mini/micro/1010 rails, so you have a lot of options to fly all the non-HPR motors without having to walk a long way. The recovery area is gigantic, so it really allows you to expand your LPR/MPR wings! Been itching to set that new single E motor record? URRG can handle it :)
 
We drove by this site (to go explore some trails/waterfalls) when we were camping at Watkins Glen state park last July. It's awesome; so much that I may just drive out there. About 12 hours from here pulling the camper.
 
As has been suggested, start making your reservations in the area now. You are not only competing with other LDRS fliers, you have to remember that this area (The Finger Lakes region) is a prime summer resort area and you will have about a million of your closest friends from the NYC Metro joining you in the local fun.

For everyone thinking about driving in from long distances, I really do recommend making it a destination trip. The Finger Lakes area is large and there is a lot to do. The whole region is a resort area, so it is great to take the whole week for a nice vaca.

If you haven't been to Niagara Falls before, it would be a huge miss not to pass through there on the way in or out (it is about a 2.5 hour drive from the field). Niagara is like the Grand Canyon - you have to see it at least once in your lifetime.

The Corning Glass Museum is right down the highway - very much recommended.

If you are into cars, Watkins Glen International is iconic and very close by - there is always something going on there on the weekend.

The National Warplane Museum in Geneseo is a must see (this year, their airshow was the weekend before URRF, so it lined up perfectly for a week long vacation trip).

If you are bringing kids, The Strong Museum of Play in Rochester is close and Legoland in Goshen should be on your travel list.

The whole area is littered with parks, camping, fishing, boating, etc opportunities.

Point is, there is a lot to do in the area, plan a full trip and make the reservations early to lock in prices and stave off the city dwellers. You can always cancel later, but getting the reservations closer to the event may be impossible/expensive.
 
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