Red Arrow Hobbies.

[Steven]

So, has anyone heard what may become of Sheri's line of rockets? Seems to me they are presently OOP for the time being.

 

[DAllen]

So, has anyone heard what may become of Sheri's line of rockets? Seems to me they are presently OOP for the time being.

Red Arrow has gone belly up and so has SHR unfortunately for the time being.

 

[Steven]

I know that. I'm wondering what will happen to the line now.

 

[DAllen]

I know that. I'm wondering what will happen to the line now.

Sorry. Didn't know you knew that.

I talked to Dave in person recently and I seriously doubt anything is going to happen with that product line anytime soon.

 

[Steven]

No plans to sell her line to anyone?

 

[DAllen]

No plans to sell her line to anyone?

I suspect he probably would have mentioned that to me if that were his intentions but he didn't bring it up and I didn't ask. Didn't feel like it was an appropriate question to ask at the time. However, if I hear anything I'll pass the information on.

 

[Steven]

I't would be a shame just to let it all rot if you know what I mean.

 

[Mushtang]

I't would be a shame just to let it all rot if you know what I mean.

I would suggest that you make an offer and buy SHR yourself... but he might accept your offer, you'd send him your money, and a week later you wouldn't have heard anything back so you'd email him, another few days with no reply you'd email again, after two full weeks of nothing you'd try calling and would get no answer...

 

[DAllen]

I would suggest that you make an offer and buy SHR yourself... but he might accept your offer, you'd send him your money, and a week later you wouldn't have heard anything back so you'd email him, another few days with no reply you'd email again, after two full weeks of nothing you'd try calling and would get no answer...

To be wronged is nothing, unless you continue to remember it.

A life lived without forgiveness is a prison.

Let today be the day you stop being haunted by the ghost of yesterday. Holding a grudge & harboring anger/resentment is poison to the soul. Get even with people...but not those who have hurt us, forget them, instead get even with those who have helped us.

(Waits for the inevitable "you're wrong/ivory tower" post)

 

[Mushtang]

I was trying to be funny.

Humor is the great thing, the saving thing after all. The minute it crops up, all our hardnesses yield, all our irritations, and resentments flit away, and a sunny spirit takes their place.

If I had no sense of humor, I would long ago have committed suicide.

Lighten up, Francis

 

[DAllen]

I was trying to be funny.

Oh ok...It was over my head and below the knees...lol

 

[Steven]

I would suggest that you make an offer and buy SHR yourself... but he might accept your offer, you'd send him your money, and a week later you wouldn't have heard anything back so you'd email him, another few days with no reply you'd email again, after two full weeks of nothing you'd try calling and would get no answer...

It had briefly crossed my mind (that's "briefly") but I don't need any extra income in my position nor the hassle of running a business since I'm retired. Too many obligations that I know I'm not of the mind to fulfill. Being here, being there, answering phones and emails, no thanks. I'd like to believe some enterprising individual/individuals would take it up and turn it into something beneficial for the rocketry crowd. I'm not the guy. As I see it, these models are for all practical purposes OOP now and that makes them collectible.

 

[AfterBurners]

I always wanted to buy the shuttle kit that she sold, but I doubt its still available?

 

[Steven]

I always wanted to buy the shuttle kit that she sold, but I doubt its still available?

Keep your eyes peeled like me. I'd like the Saturn 1b and the Mercury Atlas myself. Been perusing ebay for a number of months now and no luck yet. And that's with ANY of her stuff.

 

[Steven]

It might benefit him to throw perhaps a liquidation sale on whatever he may have left in stock.

 

[DAllen]

It might benefit him to throw perhaps a liquidation sale on whatever he may have left in stock.

While I can't say this for certain, I'm pretty sure the SHR stock is gone.

 

[michigander]

I have been out of the loop Is RAH no longer onsite motor vendor ?

 

[Steven]

I have been out of the loop Is RAH no longer onsite motor vendor ?

Couldn't tell you that but his online shop is longer up and running.

 

[DAllen]

I have been out of the loop Is RAH no longer onsite motor vendor ?

I think he's trying to get rid of remaining stock but once that's gone...no more vending.

 

[Steven]

While I can't say this for certain, I'm pretty sure the SHR stock is gone.

You could very well be right. Perhaps I'm being too hopeful. If we keep an open discussion about the future of Sheri's line, we may eventually get some answers from inquiring minds. Yes, they want to know.

 

[georgegassaway]

Given what the situation seems to be like, perhaps the best outcome would be if he could find a buyer for the Sheri line, and sell for a reasonable amount. Some motivated buyer willing to bring back the line. Not knowing any details, most likely there would be a lot of new molds that would need to be made (I do not even recall, did Red Arrow even get the Sheri line of scale models back into production?). Not a lot of people who would be candidates for that..... scale builder, parts caster, and wanting to be in the business of selling big scale models, mostly HPR sized.

And frankly some aspects of the Sheri's kits were awfully "rough". The concrete form type tubing , "fuzzy paper", that was overkill heavy something like Little Joe-II, requiring lots of special care to make it smooth. Some kit-makers would not like to drag down their overall kit quality with "Builder's kits" like that. That was a too flippant excuse for sub-par quality, as though a "real builder" would love to screw with turning a sow's ear into a silk purse. Or an overkill-heavy model that required at least double the engine power ($$) it ought to.

 

[DAllen]

Given what the situation seems to be like, perhaps the best outcome would be if he could find a buyer for the Sheri line, and sell for a reasonable amount. Some motivated buyer willing to bring back the line. Not knowing any details, most likely there would be a lot of new molds that would need to be made (I do not even recall, did Red Arrow even get the Sheri line of scale models back into production?). Not a lot of people who would be candidates for that..... scale builder, parts caster, and wanting to be in the business of selling big scale models, mostly HPR sized.

And frankly some aspects of the Sheri's kits were awfully "rough". The concrete form type tubing , "fuzzy paper", that was overkill heavy something like Little Joe-II, requiring lots of special care to make it smooth. Some kit-makers would not like to drag down their overall kit quality with "Builder's kits" like that. That was a too flippant excuse for sub-par quality, as though a "real builder" would love to screw with turning a sow's ear into a silk purse. Or an overkill-heavy model that required at least double the engine power ($$) it ought to.

I can say that I saw a lot of the SHR line as Dave was making it. He was definitely trying to improve everything from the plans to the tiniest of parts in every kit and converting tubing to more standard rocketry stuff. Also, I know he sold some. Even some of the Sat V models.

 

[Steven]

https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?127639-Sheri-s-Saturn-V/page2 Starting with post #38 I began having problems with RAH's Saturn V. It went rather downhill from there with missing pieces and a CM that would not fit into the SM tube. I got by just fine with the MR but the Saturn was an entirely different beast.

PS: I might also add the aft interstage had to be trashed as I was getting a good 3/8th gap or so. I had to make one from scratch as a replacement.

 

[georgegassaway]

I can say that I saw a lot of the SHR line as Dave was making it. He was definitely trying to improve everything from the plans to the tiniest of parts in every kit and converting tubing to more standard rocketry stuff. Also, I know he sold some. Even some of the Sat V models.

I'm very glad to hear that. It would make those kits more viable to bring back, if anyone was willing to do it and had the $.

 

[grouch]

I was trying to be funny.

Not possible on TRF. This is a serious place with serious people and serious problems. Not a hobby anymore.

 

[AfterBurners]

It had briefly crossed my mind (that's "briefly") but I don't need any extra income in my position nor the hassle of running a business since I'm retired. Too many obligations that I know I'm not of the mind to fulfill. Being here, being there, answering phones and emails, no thanks. I'd like to believe some enterprising individual/individuals would take it up and turn it into something beneficial for the rocketry crowd. I'm not the guy. As I see it, these models are for all practical purposes OOP now and that makes them collectible.

Its not worth much anyways. What does the line offer. I would retool everything if I had it

 

[AfterBurners]

It had briefly crossed my mind (that's "briefly") but I don't need any extra income in my position nor the hassle of running a business since I'm retired. Too many obligations that I know I'm not of the mind to fulfill. Being here, being there, answering phones and emails, no thanks. I'd like to believe some enterprising individual/individuals would take it up and turn it into something beneficial for the rocketry crowd. I'm not the guy. As I see it, these models are for all practical purposes OOP now and that makes them collectible.

Its not worth much anyways. What does the line offer. I would retool everything if I had it. I mean what is left basically a bunch of card board and plastic and that's all it is. I mean the new buyer would have to go through everything to make it work. I would do, but wouldn't pay much for any of it. As some mentioned the tubes were junk and nothing fit right.

 

[Daddyisabar]

While building Sheri's Hot Rockets you had to put LOVE into the build. With all the flaws you must go to the radio and crank Lady Ga Ga's BAD ROMANCE song. The SHR Merc Redstone was my first high power build and taught me a lot, after that I was no longer a HPR virgin! GOTTA LOVE THOSE ULINE TUBES! Who needs recovery room or a shoulder on the nose cone, that tube is almost bullet proof! MEMORIES - some good, some bad.

 

[MaxQ]

I was trying to be funny.

Not possible on TRF. This is a serious place with serious people and serious problems. Not a hobby anymore.

LOL.
No kidding.

 

[Woody's Workshop]

I have a feeling RAH's business and inventory was put up as collateral to cover his legal problems.
This, however, is just a guess. But would explain why nothing was shipped as it had to be accounted for to someone else.