Currell Graphics N-1 Rocket
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Originally posted by Chrisn
o yup very cool a freind of mine has made one allready I have it on my computer somewere but have run out of colour ink so ill have to wait
Thanks Chrisn & Pyro Pro.
Welcome to TRF Chrisn. Hope you get some ink and can start building one soon. Keep us posted if you do...
Jason
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Originally posted by Mike_BAR
No way!!!! You need to redecorate your living room and place both the Saturn V and N-1 in a premiere location...
Hey Mike,
It's been a long time since you posted this, but I found a good place to put the N-1. It's in my son's room on a shelf we put up along one of the walls. There's no risk of little hands getting it for a while, and when he does get tall enough to reach I'm sure he have learned to "respect the N-1".
Anyway, here's a pic of the N-1 and his friend the Proton Zond sitting proudly on the shelf. Notice that there is plenty of room for other rockets...heh heh heh...
I'm getting an itch to do a 1/144th scale Saturn V to stand next to the N-1. That's a ways away at this point.
Jason
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I recently ordered the book "The Soviet Reach for Moon" by Nicholas L. Johnson. It's a pretty definitive book on the N-1 and the Soviet lunar program. It is long out of print and pretty rare. I got it from an amazon.com reseller.
I paid way more than I usually do for these types of books, but it was worth it to an N-1 maniac like myself. Lots of nice pictures, tables, and diagrams. It would have come in handy last year when I was building the N-1. Most of the information is on the web (along with many of the pictures), but I just like having a book.
There was a big surprise when I got the book, which may help explain the price. It was autographed. The inscription said in English "With best wishes." The rest was in Russian. It was easy to make out "Salyut-7 Soyuz T-5/T-7". I couldn't read the signature, but a quick look at another book "Soyuz: A Universal Spacecraft" showed that the signature was Anotoli Berezovoy's. He flew onboard Soyuz T-5 on the first mission to the Salyut-7 space station. He returned to earth on Soyuz T-7 after spending 106 days in space. Pretty cool!
I didn't know where to post my story about the book and decided the N-1 fans on this old thread might appreciate it. Anyway, that's my update on the N-1.
Jason
I paid way more than I usually do for these types of books, but it was worth it to an N-1 maniac like myself. Lots of nice pictures, tables, and diagrams. It would have come in handy last year when I was building the N-1. Most of the information is on the web (along with many of the pictures), but I just like having a book.
There was a big surprise when I got the book, which may help explain the price. It was autographed. The inscription said in English "With best wishes." The rest was in Russian. It was easy to make out "Salyut-7 Soyuz T-5/T-7". I couldn't read the signature, but a quick look at another book "Soyuz: A Universal Spacecraft" showed that the signature was Anotoli Berezovoy's. He flew onboard Soyuz T-5 on the first mission to the Salyut-7 space station. He returned to earth on Soyuz T-7 after spending 106 days in space. Pretty cool!
I didn't know where to post my story about the book and decided the N-1 fans on this old thread might appreciate it. Anyway, that's my update on the N-1.
Jason
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Hi Jason,
I love the shelf on the wainscoting, and I noticed all the room for future builds.
Does Jonathan Leslie have a 1:144 scale Saturn V at his website? I know he has a 1:96 version. This model could be scaled down rather easily.
Museum-quality Saturn V, over 4' tall. 1/96 scale
Ive been lurking here not doing much rocketry, paper or otherwise. Life has gotten in the way of my hobby.
I did write an article for our rocket club newsletter: How-to build an 18-mm motor mount from scratch. Im threatening to start a modified Fat Boy for the Fourth of July, my Patriot Boy. And I'm figuring out how to load my new PICO altimeter in to my Sayonara Paper Tiger.
Great job on the N1 and the rocket display for your growing collection.
Regards,
Mike
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Yup! That's the one and that's the idea. It's easier for me to downscale than to upscale. The 1/144th scale Saturn V will be a nice size for a flying model. I might go nutty and cluster it. I am not anywhere near starting, just marking out space on the shelf, so to speak.
Ive been lurking here not doing much rocketry, paper or otherwise. Life has gotten in the way of my hobby.
I did write an article for our rocket club newsletter: How-to build an 18-mm motor mount from scratch. Im threatening to start a modified Fat Boy for the Fourth of July, my Patriot Boy. And I'm figuring out how to load my new PICO altimeter in to my Sayonara Paper Tiger.
Great job on the N1 and the rocket display for your growing collection.
Regards,
Mike
Tell me about it. We've been plenty busy the last few months with the adoption finally happening. Now we are just basking in our newfound joy. We got our son just in time for Mother's Day.
Yesterday was my first real launch of the year. I flew a few back in January but spent most of my time that day looking for a lost rocket. It was great to get out yesterday.
Take care,
Jason
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Currell has several great free kits that can be converted to fly.
https://currell.net/models/mod_free.htm
My Friede is a 355% upscale and flys well on a RMS F40 and G64s. Low and slow so you see the entire flight.
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That's a great launch pic! Do the fins suffer much?
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Thank you....
Just got lucky on that one, my photography skills suck.
Actually no, the fins are unharmed. Almost the entire mass of the rocket is in the NC, making the airframe so light that it just sort of floats down. And no scorch marks either, which surprised me.
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It was the scorch marks I was wondering about.
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Nice looking upscale. You'll find fans of the Currell models around here!
Can you describe your upscale process? I only have a standard 8.5x11 printer so I am curious to hear how folks upscale.
I have heard of folks getting the pages printed on standard weight 11x17 paper and pasting it to cardstock. Then there are the lucky folks that can directly print 11x17 cardstock.
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Jason,
A correction is in order, the upscale is 275%, resulting in a 5.5" airframe.
DOH!
Anyway, the first part was easy.......
In our state office we had a 36" plotter that no one monitored too closely. I'm a environmental chemist not a graphic artist, but no one screamed about all the paper I used.
The PDF files were printed onto heavy plotter paper at 275% enlargement, the exterior sheets were then rubber cemented to poster board and the rings to foam core. The poster board parts were cut out and assembled as per Currell's directions. A hole for the 29mm motor mount was cut in the two centering rings and the centers of the nose cone sections were removed before assembly. Currell's model allows for a removable nose cone so this is what I did, using a sheet of poster board as a shoulder to hold it in place. A piece of 3/8" dowel was glued across one the openings in the upper sections of the nose cone for a shock cord attachment. Assembling the motor mount was simply a matter of shoving the MM tube into the centering rings and gluing it in place. Motor retention was good old fashion tape. Be sure to seal all the edges of the foam core rings to avoid melting by the ejection gases.
RockSim indicated the need for 7.5 ounces of nose ballast.
And the final model ended up weighing only 15.85oz with 30" chute and shock cord!!!!
She flys great on RMS F40, F52 and G64's.
The good news is that I printed off 40-50 full color paper rockets before I left AR Dept. of Env. Quality. The Bad news is the Department of Health DOESN'T have a plotter. The gooder news is that the graphic artist at my old office is a good friend and will print me even more.
According to Mark Hamilton (the rocketeer not the Jedi), who did a 300% upscale of the Currell V2, print shops can print off B&W upscales on a plotter for a reasonable price. Color, on the other hand, is $15 a square foot I believe.
ouch......
Now that you ask about Friede, I may do an article for EMRR......
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That would be cool to see.
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Originally posted by Pem Tech
Jason,
Anyway, the first part was easy.......
In our state office we had a 36" plotter that no one monitored too closely. I'm a environmental chemist not a graphic artist, but no one screamed about all the paper I used.
Ah Yes...You are one of those types I curse in my sleep.
Just kidding. I don't have any access to a printer/plotter like that, so I'm jealous. I really wanted to do the N-1 in 1/100th scale to match my Estes Saturn V. I checked having it done by Staples/Office Depot (somebody like that). They were going to charge ~$2.00 a sheet for color printing on 11x17 cardstock. The cost of the job would have been >$40.00 and my cheapness settled in so I just did 1/144th scale.
Please do! Your work should get documented!
Jason
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Here is a "NASA" shot I happen to get on that same launch. Looks like the air flow around and through the fins protects them.
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Hi Jason,Originally posted by jjnodice, regarding Pem Tech's upscale Friede
Ah Yes...You are one of those types I curse in my sleep.
I'm jealous too.
I used to have access to that color plotter. At the time, I wasnt a BAR, and didnt know of paper rockets.
Now I have a Canon color laser printer down the hall at work. It prints 32 pages per minute!
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Originally posted by jjnodice
Ah Yes...You are one of those types I curse in my sleep.
Please do! Your work should get documented!
Jason
Well, I curse in my sleep too but I don;t think we are talking about the same thing.
Man, what I wouldn't give to have a plotter at home......
Wonder if there would be a market for upscale paper rockets?
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Originally posted by Mike_BAR
Hi Jason,
I'm jealous too.
I used to have access to that color plotter. At the time, I wasnt a BAR, and didnt know of paper rockets.
Now I have a Canon color laser printer down the hall at work. It prints 32 pages per minute!
Lucky you!
My *#&$^%! HP prints maybe 32 pages a WEEK, between jams and misfeeds.
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This thread keeps rearing it's ugly head.
On another forum I learned of some N-1 videos that are online. I wish I had seen them when I was building the model. They have good shots of the first vehicle along with the extraordinarily large "kaboom" that resulted from the second flight.
The videos are here:
Real_N1_Flight_One
Real_N1_Flight_Two
They are on this website:
Russian_Video_website
Which is in the Russian language, but the webpage easily translates with this:
https://world.altavista.com/
There is a great video on the Plesetsk launch site and has lots of nice shots of a Soyuz being prepped with a Photon (an unmanned descendent of Yuri Gagarin's Vostok capsule). It's a huge video but I got GREAT download speeds.
I have not done much of anything with rockets lately, I'm stuck about 75% of the way converting a Classic Paper Space Models Vostok for flight.
Jason
On another forum I learned of some N-1 videos that are online. I wish I had seen them when I was building the model. They have good shots of the first vehicle along with the extraordinarily large "kaboom" that resulted from the second flight.
The videos are here:
Real_N1_Flight_One
Real_N1_Flight_Two
They are on this website:
Russian_Video_website
Which is in the Russian language, but the webpage easily translates with this:
https://world.altavista.com/
There is a great video on the Plesetsk launch site and has lots of nice shots of a Soyuz being prepped with a Photon (an unmanned descendent of Yuri Gagarin's Vostok capsule). It's a huge video but I got GREAT download speeds.
I have not done much of anything with rockets lately, I'm stuck about 75% of the way converting a Classic Paper Space Models Vostok for flight.
Jason
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Drew,
Check to make sure you have the DIVX codec installed. I know some of those videos require it.
https://www.divx.com/
I use the free version.
hope this helps,
Jason
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