# Aerotech RMS 29/40-120 OUT-OF-STOCK??

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#### Luzwingnut

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Just getting back into the hobby after a few decades...WOW have things changed!! Playing around with some of the LPR 18mm and 24mm stuff... scratch building an Estes Leviathan... 3.0" Body Tubes, Couplers, 1/8 plywood fins (got a pattern here at TRF) in an attempt to start amassing some MPR experience. Got an SA-14 Archer from NCR arriving in a few days... (2.6" BT). NO MOTOR CASES!! Everything in 29mm is OUT-OF-STOCK (mostly... found 1 or 2 places that still have them available). Ebay... which has pretty cheap shipping costs IF one shops around.... NOTHING! Plenty of end caps... but no casings! I've got cardboard I could roll and tape with some muzzle-loader powder...but??? Probably NOT the safest method. Is there a manufacturing supply problem or a "product discontinued" message on the way for these things? Currently on the waiting list at APOGEE... but GOOD GRIEF! Most ALL the online suppliers are "OUT-OF-STOCK." What gives?

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#### rharshberger

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Have you checked CS Rocketry or Wildman?

#### Luzwingnut

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WILDMAN and Sirius Rocketry have these, yes. Hence the comment from above "... found 1 or 2 places that have these available." These were the ONLY places, at least of which I was able to find. Everyone is OOS. Just wish to know IF the 29mm RELOADABLE ROCKET CASES by AEROTECH are being phased out. Perhaps just a supply backlog.

Searching through most of the PROPULSION threads here on TRF... surprised to find no one had pinged this.

#### Luzwingnut

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Here you go:

https://wildmanrocketry.com/collections/hobby-line/products/rms-29-40-120

https://www.csrocketry.com/rocket-m...rotech-29/40-120-complete-motor-hardware.html

both at $74.99! I have 5 of those cases, who knew they were a better investment than most stocks! Tony OMG YES! Looking through various postings from circa 2012 concerning these little buggers... thinking I may be on the back-side of a power/$$curve. These things have increased in price more than an ounce of gold and silver, no doubt! #### manixFan ##### Not a rocket scientist You'll find several threads from TARC teams desperately looking for these cases. They were OOS for quite a while. I think Wildman had a run done and supplied several other dealers, but I could be wrong on that. I used to fly a lot of the hobby line motors but haven't in several years. I still have a bunch of reloads left or I would sell my cases. The reason I have so many is I would load them all up the a few days before a launch so I would not have to mess with them at the field. The F40 is probably my favorite motor in that case, works with a lot of rockets and not nearly as long a walk as a G motor. Tony #### rcktnut ##### Well-Known Member OMG YES! Looking through various postings from circa 2012 concerning these little buggers... thinking I may be on the back-side of a power/$$$ curve. These things have increased in price more than an ounce of gold and silver, no doubt!
Prices are getting way out of line especially for "entry" level hardware/reloads.

#### Luzwingnut

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You'll find several threads from TARC teams desperately looking for these cases. They were OOS for quite a while. I think Wildman had a run done and supplied several other dealers, but I could be wrong on that.

I used to fly a lot of the hobby line motors but haven't in several years. I still have a bunch of reloads left or I would sell my cases. The reason I have so many is I would load them all up the a few days before a launch so I would not have to mess with them at the field. The F40 is probably my favorite motor in that case, works with a lot of rockets and not nearly as long a walk as a G motor.

Tony
Thanks, Tony. Just thought I'd drop a posting about this... see what turned up. My Can-Am 650 LOVES G-motors... and my legs LOVE my Can-Am 650. LOL.

#### AfterBurners

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Join WM club and get the cases and other items you need at discounted prices. Well worth it!

#### Luzwingnut

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WHAAA....WHAT....WHAT?? WM Club? DISCOUNT PRICES???

I'm all ears, Afterburner. What is "WM Club"? Just getting back into this hobby. Thanks!

#### Luzwingnut

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Gotcha. Figured out "WM Club".

#### blackjack2564

##### Crazy Jim's Gone Banana's
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30-40% of hobbyline all the time withWMC

#### samb

Prices are getting way out of line especially for "entry" level hardware/reloads.
IMO, prices reflect the current cost of materials plus the labor involved in making a small, hiqh quality item for a niche market. Limited supply has been the new normal for quite some time.

#### Luzwingnut

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Yes... I fully concur. "Niche market, supply chain variances and demand ratios...".

Hopefully, a few of the people who are at the top of the food-chain could chime in and give us some clarification in this matter.

As I stated in one of my postings on the "AOT" thread:
"We can sell you the rocket, but you'd like to purchase the motor, too??"

The OP of "AEROTECH OPEN THREAD" (May 2015), was started by General Manager at RCS/AeroTech/Quest, Charlie Savoie; hence, my redirect of this thread to his.

Additionally, who can't love a guy who annotates his position at Apogee Rockets as, "Chief Visionary Officer and Janitor", Tim Van Milligan.

We owe a lot to the guys who have staked out a position for themselves to enhance a hobby for all the rest of us to enjoy.

#### samb

Just noticed this, another Texan on the ol' forum. Welcome back to the party Luz ! While you try to acquire the elusive hardware, don't pass up the single use and DMS motors; lots of fun to be had with those. Some good vendors have already been mentioned but I'll give you one from our little corner of heaven on earth:

Robert Watson

BTW, how are you fixed for a flying field ?

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Luz,

#### ATGM

##### Always Test for Good Measure
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Hey guys, ALL hobby hardware is in stock and your vendor should be all caught up in a week or less on their hobby hardware.

#### jd2cylman

##### Still not Carl... ;-)
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Thanks Charlie!!!

#### Toothless

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Hey guys, ALL hobby hardware is in stock and your vendor should be all caught up in a week or less on their hobby hardware.
Thank You !!!!