rharshberger
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Been trying to convince my wife....no luck, prefer to go back to TN where I am from, but finding a job as good as the one I have is hard and its highly specialized.You should move to Idaho.
Been trying to convince my wife....no luck, prefer to go back to TN where I am from, but finding a job as good as the one I have is hard and its highly specialized.You should move to Idaho.
Yep...hmmm same here in Eastern WA....wonder where I work at....and I don't have enough family connected well enough to get me a job at Oak Ridge....There are ton's of tech jobs in TN, but most have to do with radioactives.
Not always.
I expect a lot of people may move here or other places to escape what they consider repressive laws regarding reproductive rights, sexual identity and orientation, the teaching of history, etc.
Nah, people love to talk about these things but I think people that actually move do so for economic reasons 80-90% of the time and that includes retirees moving to better weather and tax climate. The other 10 to 19% move back home for nostalgic reasons or family reasons, being closer to kids, etc. I don't think ANYONE actually moves (which is a huge hassle) because of political reasons. Do you know any who have? I don't.
With the advent of digital TV. I stopped watching telly, no more paying for comercials or paying for what used to be free.
You had to periodically replace the mantle for your gas light, BTW what exactly is "gas lighting"?Not always.
For example, look at light bulbs. If it was not for the government pushing us to more efficient bulbs, we would still be mostly using incandescent bulbs today. In fact, I was annoyed when new rules came out and thought the efficiency standards were a bit of government over-reach. Yes, saying this to my progressive friends pissed them off which was half of the fun of the whole thing. I'm all for reducing power usage but the idea of a $15 light bulb replacing a $0.50 light bulb stuck in my craw. But the government push was needed to get production up to a viable scale to make more efficient bulbs mainstream. Remember the earlier efficient bulbs kinda sucked, and were prone to infant mortality and so forth.
The expensive LED first bulbs I bought had little to do with saving energy. The incandescent bulbs burned out in my coach lamps outside, necessitating me getting on a ladder in a precarious way to change them, and due to moisture getting in and shattering the glass, I was replacing probably 5-10 per year. Didn't care about the cost, was more concerned about effort/risk. I replaced them with LEDs starting in I think 2013 (there's a thread on this forum somewhere about it!). Of the five exterior bulbs I put in, I think 3 of them are still in service. After I warmed up to the ones outside, I started replacing the ones inside (I did the math about energy savings). I kept receipts for all the $15 bulbs I bought, and got free replacements for the ones that died early, and pretty soon as government pressure pushed old incandescent bulbs off the shelves, the $15 bulb became a $8 bulb and now they are probably $2. They last longer than ever and each generation is more efficient than the last while putting out better light.
By about 2016 the only incandescent bulbs in my house were the special purpose utility bulbs in appliances (and even those now have more efficient alternatives).
Today for general lighting it would never occur to me to use an incandescent bulb. And the only reason LED bulbs (and a few other technologies) are the mainstream choice is because our government pushed incandescent bulbs off the shelves. I didn't like it at the time, but I'm grateful in retrospect.
I think transition to widespread EVs will be much harder and take a lot longer, but government pressure (incentives preferably as opposed to bans) will be needed to make it economically viable for scale up, just like light bulbs.
...there's been a longstanding trope of "Seattle is Dying" by one of the local TV stations...
I know you're joking, but what's the problem with people living with other people they agree with, and states conducting their economies according to what the populace wants?
Got it in one.Let me guess, a Sinclair owned station?
All we need is to organize 100,000 or so Californians to move to Wyoming, and we could completely take over that state.
Or have those same 100,000 stay in California and address the issues and outcomes they helped create.
Moving on to another location and repeating the process that precluded the need for relocation will only disrupt the lives of the current inhabitants of the new targeted area who don't want to be enveloped in the California culture.
Those curlique florescent bulbs really sucked. I used a few of them back in the 90s/early 2000s then took the remainder back to the hazmat waste site.You had to periodically replace the mantle for your gas light, BTW what exactly is "gas lighting"?
Those Florescent bulb replacements were awful. Many contained mercury and are difficult to dispose of properly.
It wasn't too hard to guess that you were speaking with tongue in cheek. Sadly it seems that we have a culture of loving a location to death, then moving on to the next location to "enjoy". I dearly love Yosemite, but to see the valley pounded to dust over the past 50 years of use is tough to stomach. We've a bit better off in Oregon, but the trend in the urban utopias isn't promising.We’re gonna come and get you!
I was joking about the “damn Californians keep moving here” attitude that always gets expressed in these kinds of threads. I don’t plan to move anywhere. I like living where I do and have trouble envisioning myself anywhere else. I love the coasts, mountains, forests, deserts, valleys, hills, cities, and towns.
In recent years, I have not liked the fires and drought. But I don’t think moving to avoid that would be worthwhile yet, and I honestly don’t think there’s anywhere you can move to avoid disasters at this point.
The whole country (and world) is having more frequent fires, floods, droughts, hurricanes, extreme cold, extreme heat, etc., etc. In California, it‘s mostly drought and fire, but those nightmares are coming to other places too. That or other extreme weather disasters. In 20-30 years, the world is going to be unimaginable, either in terms of the extreme weather or the measures required to deal with it. The inconvenience of switching to LEDs or electric cars is going to be the least of our concerns. We are all going to wish we had done it 30 years ago.
My packages of incandescent bulbs were also made in China.All 12 of the packages of LED bulbs in my cabinet say "Made in China". So this could also be considered a good example of a good idea gone partially wrong.
There are a number of people who do this. Organizations exist with the aim of lowering housing costs through various means of curbing destructive market forces. Obviously no state is going to be entirely unified, with one group that seeks to make the problem worse for everybody for their own gain (a broad coalition of banks, house flippers, NIMBY organizations, developers seeking upscale projects, and foreign investors waging economic warfare) and another that is willing to make and expect manageable sacrifices for the betterment of their communities and the state at large.Or have those same 100,000 stay in California and address the issues and outcomes they helped create.
Those curlique florescent bulbs really sucked. I used a few of them back in the 90s/early 2000s then took the remainder back to the hazmat waste site.
But until the problem is alleviated and solved, you’re inevitably going to have a segment that goes elsewhere. People have needs and the immediate, ongoing need for affordable homes sometimes overwhelms their capacity for civic engagement.
Cherry picked from the EPA...I know better than to argue with cherry-picked and incomplete data.
Cherry picked from the EPA...
Despite the apparent increases in tropical cyclone activity in recent years, shown in Figures 2 and 3, changes in observation methods over time make it difficult to know whether tropical storm activity has actually shown an increase over time.3
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-tropical-cyclone-activity
This climate change hysteria is utter nonsense. Climate does change but we’re not causing it. There was an ice age 30,000 years ago and some believe that there may have only been 10,000 people on the planet at the time. Are we to believe there was a massive civilization before that that polluted the earth and caused global warming and then cooling? Or was it just natural solar cycles? I don’t buy into the gloom and doom. Do your part, try and conserve natural resources and don’t pollute. That’s the best we can do and embrace new tech when it makes a difference. Sitting out there worrying about the end of the world because you own a car and heat your home is just dumb.Yes, absolutely correct — you did cherry pick that from the EPA.
Figures 2 and 3 do show a strong indication that the strength and intensity of tropical storm activity has increased in the past 30 years. And Figure 3 shows that the sea surface temperature has risen in that time, as predicted it would do.
All of this was predicted 30 years ago, and it has played out almost exactly as predicted, with stronger evidence every year. It’s now to the point where you don’t need the data to see it happening right before your eyes. Massive fires, floods, droughts, heat waves, extreme cold, storms. We are at the beginning of the time when it is affecting our lives in noticeable ways. Everyone knows it. And it is only the beginning. This is going to get worse for our entire lives and well beyond. And it won’t matter much where you live.
This climate change hysteria is utter nonsense. Climate does change but we’re not causing it. There was an ice age 30,000 years ago and some believe that there may have only been 10,000 people on the planet at the time. Are we to believe there was a massive civilization before that that polluted the earth and caused global warming and then cooling? Or was it just natural solar cycles? I don’t buy into the gloom and doom. Do your part, try and conserve natural resources and don’t pollute. That’s the best we can do and embrace new tech when it makes a difference. Sitting out there worrying about the end of the world because you own a car and heat your home is just dumb.
And BTW,Thirsty, Ohio is a pretty great place to live. Don’t have much in the way or hurricanes or droughts. We also have the largest freshwater lake in the world on our north shore. No wildfires, no earthquakes, no tsunamis either! The world is a big place. You might consider seeing some of it before it ends in 30 years.
Thank you for the well wishes Dr Strangelove! We will be fine. Until then, just remember: Purity of Essence!Your kids and grandkids are going to love the world they inherit, and that huge freshwater lake is going to be super handy for putting out the inevitable fires! Such a wonderful world it will be.
Thank you for the well wishes Dr Strangelove! We will be fine. Until then, just remember: Purity of Essence!
This climate change hysteria is utter nonsense. Climate does change but we’re not causing it. There was an ice age 30,000 years ago and some believe that there may have only been 10,000 people on the planet at the time. Are we to believe there was a massive civilization before that that polluted the earth and caused global warming and then cooling? Or was it just natural solar cycles? I don’t buy into the gloom and doom. Do your part, try and conserve natural resources and don’t pollute. That’s the best we can do and embrace new tech when it makes a difference. Sitting out there worrying about the end of the world because you own a car and heat your home is just dumb.
And BTW,Thirsty, Ohio is a pretty great place to live. Don’t have much in the way or hurricanes or droughts. We also have the largest freshwater lake in the world on our north shore. No wildfires, no earthquakes, no tsunamis either! The world is a big place. You might consider seeing some of it before it ends in 30 years.
Snark aside….Your kids and grandkids are going to love the world they inherit, and that huge freshwater lake is going to be super handy for putting out the inevitable fires! Such a wonderful world it will be.
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