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My jaw is still sore!:mad:


I don't have an exact figure..However, a little birdie tweeted outside my window that it will be <$80.00 for the base altimeter..LCD plug-in for <$45.00...

Hush..it's a secret:wink:
I was wondering about the price. I had looked up and saw a price of about $80 for the RRC2....figured this one would be in that ballpark, maybe slightly more. When CJ said something about the price, figured it could be close to the RRC2. Will look hard at this one when they come out. Seemed like a lot of people liked the RRC2. Heck, if it's good enough for CJ, it'll have to be good enough for me.
 
The RRC2 was always popular because it Just Worked - no muss, no fuss, easy to use, inexpensive

The RRC3 continues that trend - I'm really impressed with the effort Jim Amos is doing towards that goal
 
I really like the charge hook ups on the rrc2 mini and perfect filtes. They are idiot proof.
 
Hopefully it's not surprising in the bad way... $2000 for the base, and $300 for the LCD?
 
Hopefully it's not surprising in the bad way... $2000 for the base, and $300 for the LCD?

Prices are not etched in stone, but Jim is working hard to keep alt + LCD at $100 or less. Since its still in the alpha stage, there could be engineering changes needed before production
 
Prices are not etched in stone, but Jim is working hard to keep alt + LCD at $100 or less. Since its still in the alpha stage, there could be engineering changes needed before production

Hopefully that holds. That is a nice price.
 
Prices are not etched in stone, but Jim is working hard to keep alt + LCD at $100 or less. Since its still in the alpha stage, there could be engineering changes needed before production
WOW-that would be awesome......question....do you know if the RRC3 and LCD are going to be sold seperatly? So if I wanted to buy 2 RRC3's, but probably only need 1 LCD I would think.
 
WOW-that would be awesome......question....do you know if the RRC3 and LCD are going to be sold seperatly? So if I wanted to buy 2 RRC3's, but probably only need 1 LCD I would think.

they will be availiable seperatly. you are correct. only need one LCD
 
Sounds likes. Great machine. The additional pyro board will be an hit with level 3 fliers and stagers.
 
It is similar in function from what I have heard. I doubt it will match the Raven size.
 
It is similar in function from what I have heard. I doubt it will match the Raven size.

The RRC3 is 3 1/2" x 7/8", the Raven is 1 3/4" x 3/4", so the RRC3 is about twice as big.

Part of that extra space is taken up by the connectors (dedicated switch, power and outputs), plus 3 connectors on the board -- LCD, computer interface, and expansion.

-Kevin
 
i put one into a 1 GRAIN 29mm CTI MOTOR CASE it fit beautifully
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yes it is.
a super smart BARO only. just think no MACH delay to try and figure out. it does it on its own
 
you want to get a idea of the size for those that dont have a 1 grain CTI 29mm case?
Lay 4 quarters on your desk side by side touching each other.
there you go the RRC3 will fit on top with a little bit of quarter showing at each end and slightly less than a quarter wide
 
i put one into a 1 GRAIN 29mm CTI MOTOR CASE it fit beautifully
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It will be hard to light.
 
CJ showed me the new RRC3 Friday at RG,, just like a damn street pusher, get you hooked for free,, then you got to buy it to keep your fix going. I will be buying when they go on sale, I still have my original RRC2 I bought back when I Level oned 10 or 11 YEARS ago. It is my OH SH-T backup, it gets wired with a charge 50% MORE than needed for my "last resort, this damn thing hasn't deployed I got to do something NOW" redundancy altimeter, whether it is the second, third, or it some cases the fourth altimeter, it is the one I rely on should all else fail, Right now I have an ARTS as primary, Raven as secondary (just not as familiar with the Raven) but the RRC3 WILL most likely be number one. C'mon man.. lets get these to market!!

Tom
 
CJ showed me the new RRC3 Friday at RG,, just like a damn street pusher, get you hooked for free,, then you got to buy it to keep your fix going. I will be buying when they go on sale, I still have my original RRC2 I bought back when I Level oned 10 or 11 YEARS ago. It is my OH SH-T backup, it gets wired with a charge 50% MORE than needed for my "last resort, this damn thing hasn't deployed I got to do something NOW" redundancy altimeter, whether it is the second, third, or it some cases the fourth altimeter, it is the one I rely on should all else fail, Right now I have an ARTS as primary, Raven as secondary (just not as familiar with the Raven) but the RRC3 WILL most likely be number one. C'mon man.. lets get these to market!!

Tom

From what I have seen and heard, sign me up. CJ you darn altimeter pusher.
 
The RRC2 was always popular because it Just Worked - no muss, no fuss, easy to use, inexpensive

The RRC3 continues that trend - I'm really impressed with the effort Jim Amos is doing towards that goal

That's just about all I need to hear, except...

My RRC2X, purchased in 2004, is still going great. Just did a dual-deploy flight yesterday, in fact. Buying an RRC3 isn't a necessity, yet.

:)
 
I got a full boat app. for this puppy.
Need 2 channels for air starts, 1 for main and one to controll light patterns, if want I've heard is true it will take up that task very well.
Money,s in hand and waiting!
 
I got a full boat app. for this puppy.
Need 2 channels for air starts, 1 for main and one to controll light patterns, if want I've heard is true it will take up that task very well.
Money,s in hand and waiting!

Ditto, especially if it can do that.
 
I got a full boat app. for this puppy.
Need 2 channels for air starts, 1 for main and one to controll light patterns, if want I've heard is true it will take up that task very well.
Money,s in hand and waiting!

Add the igniter board for about 15.00 and it will do ALL that + more....besides the standard dual deploy. That enough for you Don?

I just flew the second round of alpha units over the weekend....all I can say is WOW. Many improvements over the first alpha unit,including more accurate altitude reading and now bullet proof bounce protection for us twist and tape guys!

Don't get too ancy guys.... we are working all the bugs out so when they do come to market there are no complaints or regrets. it just happens the cats out of the bag and you can follow along on the progress & development of a all new altimeter in real time. Heck the beta units are yet to come!

It's unheard of for an altimeter to be alpha tested to such great lengths as this one is. 4 of us beating the crap out of these things trying to find every flaw, so there aren't any by market date time.
Then the betas come out in final configuration for the brutal testing. Jim's trying to give us fliers what we really want for a change, listening to every detail we discuss. It's a thing out beauty to have this much inter-action with a designer for once.....AND changes are being made as flights continue. Not necessarily changes needed due to flaws, but changes that make the thing EASIER to USE! This is what we all want.

I just hammered one to 9,000ft in a Vindicator on a K-590 6 grain CTI dual thrust....awesome.

For all you old RRC2 fliers, the new RR32 will be a snap to fly and get used to. Just like putting on an old pair of shoes.....well broken in and soooo comfortable. Very, very similar to the RRC2, but re-invented and will do so much more, but only if ya want it to. Leave it alone right out of the box & you will think it's old home week, hook it up stick it in a rocket & go fly it. Mach immune [nothing to set] main at 500, your done! Want to change main altitude...no sweat, dip switch[like the old one] and a button. Push it 6 times 600 ft. 9 times 900 feet. That simple!

Then for all the young bucks and electronic junkies, you will be able to play to your hearts content. This thing can be set to do so much stuff and the graph flight viewer is just plain awesome. It would take me an hour or 2 of typing to go into all that. Tons of usable data can be retrieved and siphoned through. But once again....if ya ain't into all that... no worries... the basic function is so simple it matters not.
Buy it......and fly it.
Wanna play?....ya don't have to pay!

It will be user capable for all those things at one price for everyone. I cannot overemphasize the simplicity of this thing, yet the complicated stuff it will do, but only if ya want it to. Just perfect for 95% of all of us. The ease of use and reliability of the 40-75 dollar units we all have been using and raving about combined with the graphing/data capabilities of 150-300 dollar units for around 75 bucks. The RRC3 will set a new standard.
 
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Bounce detection? Cool!

I don't see how it could possibly monitor velocities when supersonic, though, as might be nice for high-performance staged flights, so that is one limitation compared with acceleration-based devices.
 
I don't see how it could possibly monitor velocities when supersonic, though, as might be nice for high-performance staged flights, so that is one limitation compared with acceleration-based devices.

I have not gotten any details direct from Jim, but he is a very logical and no-nonsense kind of guy. So, think of it this way. If a rocket is rapidly approaching trans-mach range and beyond where the demons usually start to play tricks on altimeters, it is logical that even if something drastic happens to the rocket it will not actually hit apogee anytime soon. It would be possible to program the altimeter to continue to monitor altitude (or attempt to), but just disable the ejection charge function during the time the altimeter is in the "danger zone" for baro errors. By filtering the data it would be possible to get a sense of when readings were at a point where they could be trusted again and the charges could then be made "live" again at that point.

As I said, just my guess, but not hard to imagine how a guy as smart as Jim could make this work in a baro-only product.

Mark
 
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It doesn't do airstarts? Then it would probably be fine since it won't ever have to do anything while supersonic.
 
I don't see how it could possibly monitor velocities when supersonic, though, as might be nice for high-performance staged flights, so that is one limitation compared with acceleration-based devices.

All will be revealed in due time......let's not get ahead of ourselves.LOL

It doesn't do airstarts? Then it would probably be fine since it won't ever have to do anything while supersonic.


The stand alone unit does not.
Why should 80% of the users pay for a feature they will never use.
But as I said above, there is an igniter board that will plug in, available to those that would care to due airstarts...clusters...staging, for a very reasonable 10-15 bucks. This board is programmed through the auxiliary feature built into the altimeter. It will be programmable via the < than > than altitude, timer mode, etc... etc stuff that Jim will have to explain....it's over my head.
That should make the other 20% very happy!

Here is one of the many teasers I will reveal very soon. This is just a primitive list, that's been updated many times already. I don't have the latest at my finger tips. I will start a new thread under electronics soon with current data. Remember this is just Alpha at the moment....it will behoove anyone to make ANY assumptions at this point... we all know what happens when you assume things!
Besides who said there was no accelerometer? Hmmmm.....you might be able to plug one in huh?

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Awesome news. An accelerometer adds a lot to the capabilities of an altimeter.
 

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