- Apr 14, 2015
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Ditto,It is a free country and you can't fix stupid.
One of my coworkers is the same way. I just keep offering. I am not overdoing but I feel like I must try. I finally got her to quit smoking this year. One item at a time.Ditto,
I have a sister-in-law in healthcare who says she's not going to get it. I've talked to her till I'm blue in my face and she won't change her tune.
I'm last on the list though I'm close, I'm only 64. I retired from practicing primary care medicine last July so am considered a civilian now.
I can hole up at home and where I'm geographically located still feel comfortable going out in an N95 mask to go shopping. I squirreled away some masks before I left! Give the vaccines to people who have more exposure than me. I'm done with practicing and can remain "hiding".
As soon as any of the vaccines open up for me, I and my 26 year old son (autistic spectrum but doing great) are going to get it. He doesn't mind wearing a mask when we go to the library to pick out DVD's and doesn't mind being "poked" for blood or shots.
Hopefully it becomes available to you soon. We have a pretty good coverage of Walmart stores. I can get to at least 3 fairly quickly. They call you at the end of the day if there are unused dose and you need to get there before they close the pharmacy. It keeps a vaccine dose from going in the trash.I live in forgottenonia and the Walmart here doesn't have it yet.
That's a good link. It doesn't specifically get to the point I'm making about "infection and spread still possible but reduced" I'm trying to make but this link is going into my list of good articles. Thanks again!Here’s something from a professor at my alma mater. https://news.byu.edu/intellect/q-a-with-byu-professor-addresses-covid-19-vaccine-misconceptions
A lot of data regarding this coming from Israel, this was released just this morning: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210311005482/en/That's a good link. It doesn't specifically get to the point I'm making about "infection and spread still possible but reduced" I'm trying to make but this link is going into my list of good articles. Thanks again!
As I understand it, the pharmaceutical companies have to take a "best guess" at what strains of the flu will be prevalent in the upcoming season prior to manufacturing each years' vaccine. So the effectiveness can vary wildly depending on how accurate their guess is.While we wait for solid data about this for COVID-19, I'm looking for a reference on reduction in spread by people who got flu vaccinated but still got some level of infection, as a comparable respiratory virus with a lot of data around such things. I've googled but not found something really on-point. Do you know of a good reference? I know I've seen one before but didn't save the link.
This is an excellent summary; better than the one I posted locally. Thank you. If only I could find that reference with % spread reduction in flu vaccinated folks that also showed spread window shrinking.@Marc_G I have the same dilemma and usually just choose not to engage with that conversation online because it is too hard for me to explain in a tiny bite of text and people typically ignore it or reply "why doesn't the news today that then?"
People need to understand that vaccines are not a barrier that prevents a virus or other pathogen from entering the body and making you ill. A vaccine serves as a way to train your own immune system to recognize and destroy those pathogens when they enter your body. Vaccines speed up the process, but someone can still get sick while their body is fighting the infection off. In these cases, the symptoms are usually more mild because the body starts destroying the virus cells earlier and it has less time to replicate and cause more damage.
Think about this a step further and if fewer viral cells are replicating inside a host due to a more mild infection, fewer are being spread to the next person. This is why vaccines are extremely important, but not the only step in preventing disease spread.
I'm sure they are thinking about Polio, Measles, and Smallpox which were almost eradicated thanks to vaccines. If very few people are carrying them around any more, you're unlikely to get them. Of course, we have seen the Measles outbreaks returning thanks to the anti-vax crowd.The person I'm semi-arguing with seems to think "regular" vaccines don't allow for infection and spread and that the Covid vaccines are defective in that they do allow some infection and spread.
I was also thinking that, some other diseases with which we are already familiar (possibly some of those you noted), the time that it takes to become transmissible, and the time that it takes to show symptoms is different than it is for COVID-19. In some cases (I would imagine) a rapid immune response from a vaccinated person may be able to fight off the virus before the infected person exhibited symptoms or the virus was significantly transmissible. COVID, as we know, can be transmitted to others before you are even aware that you have it. Does that sound right?I'm sure they are thinking about Polio, Measles, and Smallpox which were almost eradicated thanks to vaccines. If very few people are carrying them around any more, you're unlikely to get them. Of course, we have seen the Measles outbreaks returning thanks to the anti-vax crowd.
What the heck did they inject? Air?? I felt pretty bad this morning, but just a sore arm now. Hopefully that means I actually got something.BTW just read that Krogers accidentally vaccinated a number of people with empty syringes. At first they said it was syringes filled with a saline solution, then they changed the story.
The person giving the shot can see if it's empty right?
Maybe they should stick to groceries.
A Kroger clinic in Virginia accidentally gave customers empty shots instead of Covid-19 vaccines - CNNWhat the heck did they inject? Air?? I felt pretty bad this morning, but just a sore arm now. Hopefully that means I actually got something.
My coworker's son's school had 120 teachers call in sick today after receiving their second dose of (Moderna I think) vaccine. They had to close the school for the day.My J&J vaccine appointment is this Sunday.
Considering I was first notified about this initiative on Feb 27th, that was fast.
From what I understand, this is a PA DoH big push for all school employees. Perhaps, from Biden's campaign to open schools ?
btw-Im a school bus driver. Grades K-6.
Im wondering how many of us, will call in sick the day or two after vaccination ? uh-oh...