8 cm German WW II Rocket

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PeterAlway

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While I was working on my WW II missile and rocket booklet, I downloaded a whole bunch of old scanned documents from a a bunch of military history websites. There was one rocket that I sort of noticed at the time, but hadn't quite pieced together. In the years since then, filed my various printouts of pdf's and I realized I could put together a complete drawing of this little 8-cm-diameter German rocket. The WW II vintage documents called it the 8 cm aircraft rocket, but that was evidently because all the measurements were made from rockets found mounted on a crashed or captured German plane. Wikipedia indicates it was primarily ground-launched, under the name 8 cm Raketen Sprenggranat. Both the old reports and Wikipedia agree that it was probably copied from the Soviet RS-82 rocket.

I could find no decent photographs of this thing. I found recent color photos of completely rusted-out hulks of the rocket with no surviving paint, and the photos in the documents were scans of printouts of microfilmed documents. Literally black and white photos with no greyscale.

Fortunately, one of the WW II reports gave a little bit of color information--the warhead was "dark green" with a bare steel adapter section at its base. It even gave the text of the marking on the motor section. I have to assume the motor section was also dark green. The lettering *looks* white, but for all I know it was yellow or some other light color. You can only tell so much from the image.

For all its iffiness, the Brits who wrote up what seems to be the original document made dimensioned drawings from the captured rockets with pretty much all the essentials.

Anyway, the thing has big fins, so you can build a flying model with no trouble, and rail button fans will like the launch guides. So here is my drawing, which will be 1/4 scale if you print it at 300 dpi, with the borders 3/4" from the edge of an 8.5" x11" sheet of paper, or 32% in word, or 9.52 x 7.02 in layout software, accounting for the line thickness of the borders.
 

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I googled into an intelligence report in the National Archives of Australia yesterday, and found a less crappy photo. This one has different lettering than the one in the reports I found earlier. It also shows the fuze and being silver rather than dark green. You gotta love all the contradictory information about these things. The report I worked from for the drawing explicitly said the only markings were the text 13d dov 44 on the motor tube, but the new photo shows other markings. Go figure.

By the way, the National Archives of Australia have a bunch of photos of British and Australian rockets worth exploring.
 

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Peter, I've been trying to do some digging into this one, and I've found a couple of descriptions of the launcher stating that the 8cm Rakete Sprenggranate had fins with a 2 degree cant. I was wondering if you'd found any information about the fins being angled to impart spin?

Also, have you been able to find any concrete numbers for the start and end stations of the 2mm transitions, or the diameter of the rail guides?

I think this one has bit me a little hard with the scale bug, it looks perfect for a 1:1 scale G-I impulse rocket. Thinking I've found my L1 cert project. :eek:
 
Raythain:

Here is the link to the first source for the drawing: https://www.bulletpicker.com/pdf/Captured Ammunition Bulletin No 1.pdf
Pages 25-30 of the pdf cover this rocket.

Here is the link to the second source for the drawing:
https://www.bulletpicker.com/pdf/German and Japanese Solid-Fuel Rocket Weapons.pdfPages 4-7 of the pdf cover this rocket.

The third source on the drawing was a copy/paste error! That was for a different drawing (15 cm Nebelwerfer). oops!

The fourth source is here:
https://www.paperlessarchives.com/FreeTitles/CatalogOfEnemyOrdnanceMateriel.pdfAnd the relevant material is on p 134 of the PDF.

The fifth source is here:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=199445And the relevant portion is pages 11-19

And now you know everything I know!
 
Raythain:

Here is the link to the first source for the drawing: https://www.bulletpicker.com/pdf/Captured Ammunition Bulletin No 1.pdf
Pages 25-30 of the pdf cover this rocket.

Here is the link to the second source for the drawing:
https://www.bulletpicker.com/pdf/German and Japanese Solid-Fuel Rocket Weapons.pdfPages 4-7 of the pdf cover this rocket.

The third source on the drawing was a copy/paste error! That was for a different drawing (15 cm Nebelwerfer). oops!

The fourth source is here:
https://www.paperlessarchives.com/FreeTitles/CatalogOfEnemyOrdnanceMateriel.pdfAnd the relevant material is on p 134 of the PDF.

The fifth source is here:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=199445And the relevant portion is pages 11-19

And now you know everything I know!
Thanks for sharing! Now I guess I have to do "original research".
 
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