Nytrunner
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You can fly up to 320 N-s of clustered impulse without being L1
Need launch pad for medium power rocket
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You can fly up to 320 N-s of clustered impulse without being L1
Then I stand corrected.
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But if it is over 125 g of propellant or 3.3 lbs on the pad, then it needs a waiver.
The G40 has 54 grams of propellant so 108 grams. He's safe there at least.
Off Grid Gecko
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Also need to contact the closes FAA regulated tower and let them know you are flying if it is over a pound, or has that changed? Not a big deal most of the time, but something worth keeping in mind. This applies to RC flight as well, but they have their own rules for size and altitude. I don't remember a specific altitude being listed for rockets 1-3.3 pounds that might be exempt.
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No need to contact FAA for rockets under 3.3 lbs (1500 grams). But also don't launch when there are aircraft in the area.
Over $60 for shipping at that eBay link.
Here is one for just under $30, shipped. It will come basically as a bare rail with a label on it, but I and several others around here have gotten rails this way.
https://www.sustainablesupply.com/80-20-t-slotted-extrusion-10s-72-lx1-in-h-1010-72-c1552409
NateB
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FlightRadar24 is a fun app that can track aircraft in the area too.
Ouch. Definitely use somewhere else then.
Off Grid Gecko
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Wonder if that tracks military aircraft. It's funny, other than jets over 30k, I rarely see too many aircraft. The most common is the medevac or someone with a dink flying overhead. But every once in a while, a squadron of bombers will "buzz" the top of my hill. It's quite a sight. You could throw a rock and hit one of them, no kidding. The last time I saw a fly-by I was actually painting my original L1 concept outside. Went straight over my head, at least a dozen of them. I was launching one of my tiny rockets that day as well. I waited until I was certain they were all past before launch.
Maybe they KNEW you were launching rockets????
NateB
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I don't think it tracks military aircraft. It uses the ADS-B transponders and a few other data sources. We have a squadron of A-10s locally that I have not seen on the app even when they are flying overhead. It also seems some homebuilt aircraft aren't visible too. If I'm particularly bored at our hangar, I look up who is coming and going. It is amazing to see a jet at 30k' and realize they're 50 miles away too.
Off Grid Gecko
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Fat chance. I was still roughing it in my 8x12 cabin at the time. I think the path on top of the hill made a nice target for them. USAF does all kinds of exercises in this area because we're in the middle of nowhere. Fighter jets, bombers...never know what you are going to see in the sky around here.
You haven't seen any funny looking things sticking up out of the dirt, have you? If it's at the base I think you are near, I have actually delivered there before. They go through everything in the truck, remove things they do not want on base and then you get them back when you leave. Can only imagine what might fly over....
Off Grid Gecko
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No bases nearby really. I guess the closest would be Leonard Wood. There is an Armory in West Plains. Nothing suspicious sticking out of the dirt comes to mind. You mean like those little Area 51 camera thingies? I believe the closest air base is Scott, but it's easily a 4hr drive. I grew up around that area. Unless there's stuff in N. Arkansas that I'm missing for lack of appropriate search terms.
I've heard some UFO stories from the locals, so yes I suspect they occasionally test something really cool out here. Nothing on my radar cept them big meteors every now and again. Gotta love dark skies!
But um,, I'm going to shut up about all of that after this post, I've derailed this thread plenty. Feel free to PM if you want to chat more about the area though. Sounds like you have an interesting job.
Agreed on the thread, but I just drive a truck. See lots of stuff, but never get to go there 
no no its ok. I forgot to get on the rocketry form sorry for late re.
Do you have a parts list I like it
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Faa waiver needed. And sorry I meant I want a launch pad for two G-40 motors wich is totally legal, But for a level one cert I wanna have a little fun and do two G80 motors. Sorry for the mixup thats my fault and sorry for late response
Nytrunner
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I may be misunderstanding your intentions.
Are you saying you want to certify using 2x G80s, or that you want to fly such a thing once you're certified?
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From Ace HardwareDo you have a parts list I like it
Boltmaster 1/4 inch-20 Steel Coupling Nut 4 pk
Item no. 52555 | 11835
2 1/4 Carriage bolt 2in long will have to file the square part under the head to clear the slot in the rail
1 1/4 Carriage bolt 3/4 in for stop
2 1/4 by 20 nuts
From Home Depot
Husky
Tripod for Portable LED Work Light
Internet #207186703
Model # K9028
Store SKU #1001863391
Graingers
80/20
Framing Extrusion
Item # 2RCP8 Mfr. Model # 1010-72 Catalog Page # 1118 UNSPSC # 31111501
I drilled 1/4 hole in the flat side of the led mount at the top, and one in the skirt at the bottom, then assembled as the pictures I showed, sliding the carriage bolt into the rail and then threading the steel coupling on it, as a stand off, then through holes drilled in the stand.
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I want to fly after im certified with two G80s but First I need my level 1 thats all sorry for mixup
I have a tracket on my phone showing all aircraft. I should be safe
Estimate for price I am going to build this should hold my rocket right?
Just wanna thank you all for the help and support being new to rocketry is hard because you dont know a lot but when you open up to the community and ask questions you learn more and the people they are very helpful and nice, And are very respectful! Happy Easter!!!
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Before you cluster G40 Motors, do some homework. Those use White-Lightning propellant, tend to light slowly, and are very difficult to successfully cluster.
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Sorry just checked what I used again and they were 2in carriage bolts not 3in, total cost around $60
20 for the tripod, 27 for the rail, which I picked up and Graingers, and less then $10 for the hardware.
I would not use this on any rocket over about 10 to 12 lbs, but should be sturdy enough for entry level high power.
20 for the tripod, 27 for the rail, which I picked up and Graingers, and less then $10 for the hardware.
I would not use this on any rocket over about 10 to 12 lbs, but should be sturdy enough for entry level high power.
none of my rockets are 10-12 pounds haha. about 3.2 with motors in I think
Are they hard to cluster G80-7t? Btw if I do two G80-7t thats when I get my cert not now.
T is blue thunder propellant, which does light far more easily than white lightning and is therefore easier to successfully cluster.
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