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My company has a special day once a year where employees volunteer their time to do outside projects to help different organizations. I’ll be at a local HS helping the students prep for their first job and going over interview skills. After reading over the suggested list of questions we must ask the students as a mock interviewer I find the questions are a misrepresentation of what a real-world interview is all about. I don’t really see how they will benefit the student in finding a job. Then they tell us to be “gentle” on them because, after all they are HS students. Well unfortunately the real world isn’t going to be gentle on them. If anything, they will have to learn how to handle rejection and learn how to learn from each situation and use it to their advantage to make the next interview better. I mean the truth is not many employers are willing to hire HS students for any job outside of fast food or retail, which there’s nothing wrong with that, if they get some type of work experience but getting the job and keeping it are two different things. They also need to learn how to develop people skills and get along with others and not whine when things don’t their way. If I was to suggest anything to these kids it would be continue to college with a purpose. Stay focused on your goals and know that nothing in life is guaranteed. Just because you have a college education, doesn’t always guarantee you will get the job, but it certainly in most cases puts you above the person who doesn’t have one, unless that person has more work experience, which if I was an employer I would hire first. I would also suggest to these students to investigate enrolling in a trade school or technical school for computers or web design and maybe programming. It might cost more, but in most cases, you are in and out in 2 years with something tangible and with the option to continue with a 4-year program. You get out of school hopefully land a fairly good job with accompany and work your way up, but you have some type of future. A company that offers benefits, 401k plan and retirement. Many kids today are lazy and / or snowflakes and want everything handed to them. Their parents buy them everything and they don’t have to work for it and have no idea the value of a dollar. So really the parents are responsible for the way they are and many of schools don’t teach them anything. They need real world classes, but that’s probably not in the school’s budget. It’s sad to see how things are today and how our next generation of young adults are growing up with nothing to their advantage but maybe a high score on their X-Box 360 game.
 
You're going into this helping session with a horrible attitude about their interview skills, work ethic, parent's parenting skills, school curriculum and job prospects and you've never met them. It makes me wonder if you're not also that WhiskeyTangoFaceplant poster.

Please videotape your practice "interviews" with the kids and post them here for my amusement.
 
You're going into this helping session with a horrible attitude about their interview skills, work ethic, parent's parenting skills, school curriculum and job prospects and you've never met them.

Please videotape your practice "interviews" with the kids and post them here for my amusement.

I don't have a horrible attitude. It's what the real world is all about and these kids are not prepared to deal with it, because the schools today don't teach them real world experience and again the parents think they are helping their kids by buying and paying for everything for them. The kids don't benefit from it.
 
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Why don't you just do your volunteering first before pre judging these kids.
Maybe you will be surprised in a good way.
Also Going to college is not for everyone.
Too many graduates working at jobs the did not get educated for.
Learning a trade is some very good advice for some.
My son did it both.
He attended a Maritime Academy at Texas A&M in Galveston Texas. Got a degree in Marine Transportation
which gave him the credentials to become a professional mariner.
He will be making big bucks at something he loves.
 
They also need to learn how to develop people skills

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Why don't you just do your volunteering first before pre judging these kids.
Maybe you will be surprised in a good way.
Also Going to college is not for everyone.
Too many graduates working at jobs the did not get educated for.
Learning a trade is some very good advice for some.
My son did it both.
He attended a Maritime Academy at Texas A&M in Galveston Texas. Got a degree in Marine Transportation
which gave him the credentials to become a professional mariner.
He will be making big bucks at something he loves.

This is my second go around...would love to help them, but sometimes I get pissed off the way the school system is today. HS should be more like a career development or trade school. Teach these kids real world skills and give them the tools they need to get a leg up in the real world. Don't reward them for finishing last, because in the real world life isn't about that.
 
Why don't you just do your volunteering first before pre judging these kids.
Maybe you will be surprised in a good way.
Also Going to college is not for everyone.
Too many graduates working at jobs the did not get educated for.
Learning a trade is some very good advice for some.
My son did it both.
He attended a Maritime Academy at Texas A&M in Galveston Texas. Got a degree in Marine Transportation
which gave him the credentials to become a professional mariner.
He will be making big bucks at something he loves.

So happy to hear this...good for him!!
 
My two cents:

Take a happy pill, be gentle on them, ask them the questions you're supposed to ask them, teach them how to load an F52 or G64 into the 29/40-120 case. Real world skill passed on. ;)
 
Good lord. When will we learn that every generation seems to think that subsequent generations are worse? And yet - progress seems to continue to happen.

I have participated in senior exit interviews at the local high school. These are, of necessity, fairly time limited but do provide the opportunity for some interaction. You can be hard on them, or you can take it as an opportunity to improve their interviewing skills. I would suggest that the latter is more useful.

And as far as "nothing to their advantage but maybe a high score on their X-Box 360 game." Really? In this hobby we have hundreds of TARC teams working every year. Nothing virtual about that reality! How about NASA Student launch? Outside this hobby, what about the students that are in music programs, dance programs, take shop classes, volunteer for local charities and at middle and elementary schools? What about the students that work with the special needs students at their schools and take Advanced Placement classes and even at the high school age are dual enrolled in a local community college?

Seems like a myopic view of a large number of students that are actually doing quite well. Not doing it your way perhaps, but well enough.
 
I say this as a parent of a senior in college and a junior in high school. It's not the students, it's the parents. The participation trophies weren't for the students. The students didn't demand that all obstacles be blasted out of their paths. The students probably didn't want to be signed up for 12 different weekly activities. The students probably would have been really happy to go play in the dirt down the street.

So yeah, Kids These Days.

FWIW, I do think it's good to learn trade skills even if they're headed to university. Knowing how to fix a car will make someone a far better automotive engineer. Knowing how houses get built makes you a better architect. Apprenticeships and other work like that are also fantastic ways to get a living wage job with no college debt. There are lots of signs by the side of the road here for journeyman electricians at $52/hour.

For anyone considering a career start or change, think about following @KILTED COWBOY's son. There are enormous numbers of jobs out there in the maritime industry as the workforce grays out. 50% of Washington State Ferry maritime employees are eligible for retirement right now. That system has 20-odd boats and moves 29 million people a year. [/sales job for my industry]
 
Okay I'm done. Everyone have a nice day, week, month....enjoy life!

AB your manifesto paints a pretty bleak picture. Maybe mostly right, IDK. I try to go for little victories when I have the opportunity with youngsters but I realize I can't fix the world. Good on you for volunteering.
 
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
-- attr. to Socrates by Plato
 
I prefer to consider accountability for the problems created by my own generation:

"The corrupt and blood-smeared fingerprints of the past must be wiped away to create a clean space for the morally pure generation that is surely about to arrive. Such is the theory. But among these bloody fingerprints are those made by ourselves, and these can’t be wiped away so easily."

Anybody guess the attribution of this? (no googling it!)
 
Xbox 360? Sir! That is last gen, the Xbox one is Microsoft's current console. And yes it is the parents fault, if they truly cared they would get the children a PlayStation! HA. If you mock someone, mock then correctly. I am sometimes picked up for playing Nintendo...I am a grown @$$ man, I play PlayStation! LOL. And I'm 40.

Not to be the devils advocate for video games but some skills learned there can be used in real world applications. Problem solving and hand eye coordination come to mind.
 
I prefer to consider accountability for the problems created by my own generation:

"The corrupt and blood-smeared fingerprints of the past must be wiped away to create a clean space for the morally pure generation that is surely about to arrive. Such is the theory. But among these bloody fingerprints are those made by ourselves, and these can’t be wiped away so easily."

Anybody guess the attribution of this? (no googling it!)
Um, Karl Marx? No, wait! The other brother -- Groucho!
 
Xbox 360? Sir! That is last gen, the Xbox one is Microsoft's current console. And yes it is the parents fault, if they truly cared they would get the children a PlayStation! HA. If you mock someone, mock then correctly. I am sometimes picked up for playing Nintendo...I am a grown @$$ man, I play PlayStation! LOL. And I'm 40.

Not to be the devils advocate for video games but some skills learned there can be used in real world applications. Problem solving and hand eye coordination come to mind.

LOL Give me a break...
 
Problem solving and hand eye coordination come to mind.
Agreed. Very few things are bad in and of themselves. It is the abuse of things that leads to harm. Playing video games a few times a week? Fun, and as you said, perhaps beneficial. Playing video games to the extent that you never go outside and never have any friends? Big problem.

I try to play a good game every year. PC only. My favorites have been Nocturne, the Thief series, the Bioshock series, the Dishonored series, and the Evil Within series.

I just bought Blair Witch to get me warmed up for Halloween. :cool:
 
Military drone manufacturers are making their controllers match game console controllers. Then the Air Force recruits kids that are good at gaming.
 
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