Loki Research 2016

[markkoelsch]

Thank you gents.

 

[Loki Research]

Mark, I just sent you any email. Thanks for your help.
I'm not a TRA forum member. That was news to me.

 

[Steve Shannon]

Mark, I just sent you any email. Thanks for your help.
I'm not a TRA forum member. That was news to me.

Anybody that belongs to Tripoli can log into the TRA forums. Your login name is just your TRA number.

 

[Loki Research]

Thanks Steve. I didn't realize that it was no longer on an email list.

Here below is Paul's announcement with regard to Loki Research.

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Loki Research has certified a new batch of reloads as well as one new propellant, Loki Ice Blue. Ice Blue is a White Blue flame propellant. Currently Scott has Loki Blue (LB), Loki White (LW), Loki Red (LR), Loki Cocktail (CT), Spitfire (SF) and Loki Ice Blue (IB). Also noteworthy is there are 3 G size motors out of this set of 6 certifications.

I377CT
Case Class 38-480
Total Impulse 522.2865 NS
Max Impulse 659.37875 N
Average 377.565 N
Burntime 1.383
TMT Metric I377 (63% I)

K627LR
Case Class 38-1200
Total Impulse 1518.691 NS
Max Impulse 987.708 N
Average 627.881 N
Burntime 2.418
TMT Metric K627 (18% KI)

H125CT
Case Class 38-240
Total Impulse 240.428 NS
Max Impulse 205.88 N
Average 124.4936 N
Burntime 1.931
TMT Metric H124 (50% HI)

G66LR
Case Class 38-120
Total Impulse 134.457 NS
Max Impulse 115.72 N
Average 68.445 N
Burntime 1.9645
TMT Metric G68 (68% G)

G70CT
Case Class 38-120
Total Impulse 119.0677 NS
Max Impulse 101.37 N
Average 70.039 N
Burntime 1.7
TMT Metric G70 (48% G)

HP-GP94IB
Case Class 38-120
Total Impulse 121.1148 NS
Max Impulse 131.0917 N
Average 94.222 N
Burntime 1.285
TMT Metric HP-G94 (51% G)


Congrats to both manufacturer’s and success to their users.

Paul Holmes
Tripoli Motor Testing

 

[djs]

Are there any pictures of this ice blue propellant (i mean the flame/exhaust, not the grains)?

 

[RKeller]

I had to grab a 120 and a couple new loads at urrf as well. Just too cool to pass up!

 

[Maxwelljets]

So was the 54mm M motor certified in this batch? That's a motor I'm really looking forward to.

 

[AlfaBrewer]

Are there any pictures of this ice blue propellant (i mean the flame/exhaust, not the grains)?

It's not the picture you asked for, but I hope a video will suffice.

[video=youtube;sGmNYs_yiok]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGmNYs_yiok[/video]

 

[Syclone]

Finally got to fly my Loki 54/4400 case at URRF-3 with one of my high performance research loads. I think I need a new nozzle though. Definitely my favorite piece of Loki hardware to date.

 

[Onebadhawk]

I saw that flight Justin,,
Incredible...

Teddy

 

[ksaves2]

Finally got to fly my Loki 54/4400 case at URRF-3 with one of my high performance research loads. I think I need a new nozzle though. Definitely my favorite piece of Loki hardware to date.

Justin, Was that a phenolic derivative nozzle? Kurt

 

[Syclone]

Justin, Was that a phenolic derivative nozzle? Kurt

It's a Loki single use nozzle.

https://lokiresearch.com/secure/storeDetail.asp?id=112020138595789

 

[Syclone]

I saw that flight Justin,,
Incredible...

Teddy

Thanks Teddy. Data shows it pulled 43 G's 1 second into the burn. Not bad for a 24 lb., 4" diameter rocket. It took some head scratching to get an M out of that case.

 

[Loki Research]

Please note the correction I made to the hardware listed in the above new certified reloads. Loki Research does not have a 390Ns or 640Ns sized case.

Justin, I don't know what you burned through that but you definitely gave it an extreme test. Would you mind emailing me some close up photos of that? I'm always looking for way to make improvements. How did your liner look? You think you did get an M out of it, or are you talking about the red M? I'm glad to see you found a new love in Loki.

To answer Max above, only one of two 54/4000 red reloads were fired that I know of. I believe the other may have the grains glued in the wrong place by accident. It's not fitting inside the hardware properly. I'll let everyone know as soon as a second load is tested and the reload is certified.

In the mean time, how about 1,518.7Ns in the 38/1200?! Coleman Merchant was suppose to fly the K-627 at URRF 3 but I haven't heard yet if he got the flight off or not. There are going to be a lot of personal best records broke with that one for sure. Riley, I knew you and David couldn't resist the G's. It's guys like you that helped spur those into creation. Thank you very much

DJS, the HP-G94IB looks very similar to the video Chuck posted which was 3 grains total, 2 blue and 1 white. The certified motor is 2 grains, one white, one blue so it has a little more "show" from the additional magnesium content.

I think that covers it all. Thanks everyone!

 

[Loki Research]

Just in case it was missed somewhere, the K-627 requires the use of a #25 nozzle, not the standard #28 nozzle used for the other 38/1200 reloads.

This group makes a total of 14 Loki Research reloads that can be shipped without any haz-mat fees. Get yours today!

 

[crossfire]

Guys after putting off a purchase of loki motors for some time. I placed an order yesterday for a 54/1200 motor and some reloads. I can't wait to give them a try.

 

[dixontj93060]

Guys after putting off a purchase of loki motors for some time. I placed an order yesterday for a 54/1200 motor and some reloads. I can't wait to give them a try.

Gary you will not regret it!

 

[markkoelsch]

So was the 54mm M motor certified in this batch? That's a motor I'm really looking forward to.

It was not. One was tested, but I will let Scott fill you in on the rest.

I should have the motor files up by the weekend.

 

[pondman]

Gary you will not regret it!

+1.

 

[DavidMcCann]

Guys after putting off a purchase of loki motors for some time. I placed an order yesterday for a 54/1200 motor and some reloads. I can't wait to give them a try.

I can see into your future.....

 

[Donaldsrockets]

I can tell that if I ever take HPR up again, I would probably go with Loki this time around.:wink:

 

[ozwald]

I can see into your future.....

That J820 Star Grain is one Awesome load. Just happen to have one in my stash that is itching to get in the air.

 

[DavidMcCann]

I can tell that if I ever take HPR up again, I would probably go with Loki this time around.:wink:

pppsssstttt... 38/120

 

[Donaldsrockets]

pppsssstttt... 38/120

Yep, that is a very real possibility.:wink:

 

[RocketHunter]

Please note the correction I made to the hardware listed in the above new certified reloads. Loki Research does not have a 390Ns or 640Ns sized case.

Justin, I don't know what you burned through that but you definitely gave it an extreme test. Would you mind emailing me some close up photos of that? I'm always looking for way to make improvements. How did your liner look? You think you did get an M out of it, or are you talking about the red M? I'm glad to see you found a new love in Loki.

To answer Max above, only one of two 54/4000 red reloads were fired that I know of. I believe the other may have the grains glued in the wrong place by accident. It's not fitting inside the hardware properly. I'll let everyone know as soon as a second load is tested and the reload is certified.

In the mean time, how about 1,518.7Ns in the 38/1200?! Coleman Merchant was suppose to fly the K-627 at URRF 3 but I haven't heard yet if he got the flight off or not. There are going to be a lot of personal best records broke with that one for sure. Riley, I knew you and David couldn't resist the G's. It's guys like you that helped spur those into creation. Thank you very much

DJS, the HP-G94IB looks very similar to the video Chuck posted which was 3 grains total, 2 blue and 1 white. The certified motor is 2 grains, one white, one blue so it has a little more "show" from the additional magnesium content.

I think that covers it all. Thanks everyone!

Sure did, awesome motor:

 

[claytonbirchenough]

Sure did, awesome motor:

YES! Saw this one and man did it go! This motor.........

 

[Syclone]

Justin, I don't know what you burned through that but you definitely gave it an extreme test. Would you mind emailing me some close up photos of that? I'm always looking for way to make improvements. How did your liner look? You think you did get an M out of it, or are you talking about the red M? I'm glad to see you found a new love in Loki.

It was an ~85% solids, 10% aluminum monolithic grain. The nozzle actually held up much better than I expected. I've had graphite nozzles with extended expanding cones actually crack off mid-burn with this propellant. I'll email you some pictures when I have a chance.

 

[RKeller]

It was an ~85% solids, 10% aluminum monolithic grain. The nozzle actually held up much better than I expected. I've had graphite nozzles with extended expanding cones actually crack off mid-burn with this propellant. I'll email you some pictures when I have a chance.

Justin, that motor was awesome, everyone who knew what that meant was impressed. someone near me said "that was a 54mm M? Man, someone really knows what they're doing"

 

[Loki Research]

It was an ~85% solids, 10% aluminum monolithic grain. The nozzle actually held up much better than I expected. I've had graphite nozzles with extended expanding cones actually crack off mid-burn with this propellant. I'll email you some pictures when I have a chance.

Ahh, that explains why so much material is missing. Sweet. That's good to know it worked so well for you.
Looking forward to the feedback!

 

[mpitfield]

Hi Scott, here is my contribution to the Loki cause.

[video]https://youtu.be/QgOPMvseG80[/video]