The 2024 Newton-Second Tally Thread

kjhambrick · Mar 5, 2024

Whee !

I used to play along with Bob Kaplow on Rec.Models.Rockets ... added my two flights for the year:

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 3897.8 Ns (L2, 15 motors, 9 Ex. 6 comm. 7 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 1278.9 Ns (L3, 5 motors, 5 flights)
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
RiffD ........................................ 216.6 Ns (L0, 8 motors, 8 flights)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek........................................82.1 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

-- kjh

EDIT: unrounded 360.0 -> 359.7

Handeman · Mar 16, 2024

Our launch last week was cancelled so we have it this weekend. Not many attended today, but expect a lot of folks tomorrow. We did have 3 L3 cert flights today. The away cell pads were almost as busy as the back row.

Only got 3 flights in, one EX and a couple of commercial motors, J350W and a G64W on the last flight as the wind was picking up all day.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 3897.8 Ns (L2, 15 motors, 9 Ex. 6 comm. 7 flights)
Handeman .................................... 3205.6 Ns (L3, 8 comm. motors, 1 EX, 9 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
RiffD ........................................ 216.6 Ns (L0, 8 motors, 8 flights)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek........................................82.1 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

RiffD · Mar 17, 2024

Gorgeous day yesterday. It was our backup day so not a ton of flyers but because of the maple festival there were quite a few people who came by to observe and learn about rocketry or reignite an old passion. Feeling more comfortable with G motors now and got to try out my JLCR and believe me the shorter walks were appreciated.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 3897.8 Ns (L2, 15 motors, 9 Ex. 6 comm. 7 flights)
Handeman .................................... 3205.6 Ns (L3, 8 comm. motors, 1 EX, 9 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek........................................82.1 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

DabCat · Mar 17, 2024

Flew a minimum diameter on an EX 79% I274 red load for the Kosdon 38/640 case. Hit 9572 ft.

Photo by Julian Rice

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 3205.6 Ns (L3, 8 comm. motors, 1 EX, 9 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek........................................82.1 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

Handeman · Mar 17, 2024

Not such a good day today. It got windy so I launched early. Used a I284W. Got about 4000 ft. but everyone lost track of it, and the GPS quit at launch. Heard the main deployment charge go off, but no one saw it. Walked 8 miles crisscrossing the area and never found it.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 3812.9 Ns (L3, 9 comm. motors, 1 EX, 10 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek........................................82.1 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

boatgeek · Mar 18, 2024

Another day out at 60 Acres, but I only got one launch in. On the other hand, it was a 3-motor cluster, so it punched above its weight.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 3812.9 Ns (L3, 9 comm. motors, 1 EX, 10 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................132.5 Ns (L2, 6 motors, 4 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

Handeman · Mar 19, 2024

Only flew one rocket last Sunday. I284W. The GPS quit as it left the pad and it ducked behind a cloud and was never seen again. Only went 4100 ft. and we heard the main deployment charge go off about a minute after apogee but nobody got eyes on it. Walked about 8 miles around the farm searching for it. No luck.

Oh well, as I tell everyone else, if you can't afford to lose it, don't fly it.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
BEC .......................................... 311.5 Ns (L1, 72 motors, 61 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................132.5 Ns (L2, 6 motors, 4 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

BEC · Mar 19, 2024

March BEMRC launch and one trip to Sixty Acres. My wife's flights included as usual....well over half the motors were 13mm 1/2As and As. Three two-stage flights. Biggest motor was a Q-Jet D22. No MMX this time.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
bad_idea.......................................643.7 NS (L2, 5 motors, 3 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................132.5 Ns (L2, 6 motors, 4 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

bad_idea · Mar 23, 2024

Four flights and six motors today:
...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea.......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................132.5 Ns (L2, 6 motors, 4 flights)
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... [/B]F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

boatgeek · Mar 25, 2024

That's more like it. A pair of CTI 29mm 2G G's takes me over the I total impulse threshold...
...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 4471.8 Ns (L2, 16 motors, 10 Ex. 6 comm. 8 flights)
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea.......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................355.9 Ns (L2, 8 motors, 6 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

DabCat · Mar 31, 2024

Had a fun day at the MTA yesterday. 6 characterization static tests of 2 new propellants I've "designed". A variation of a blue someone else designed and a variation of Tony Alcocer's Swamp Gas. Also got to fly 3 rockets. One being on my custom experimental red. It was raining pretty good on the drive out, but cleared up for some nice weather mid day. Then it started raining again on the drive out.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns

...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea.......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................355.9 Ns (L2, 8 motors, 6 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
PhlAsh ....................................... 240.9 Ns (L2, 19 motors, 19 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

PhlAsh · Mar 31, 2024

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns

...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea.......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................355.9 Ns (L2, 8 motors, 6 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

noahapiraino · Apr 1, 2024

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................355.9 Ns (L2, 8 motors, 6 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

boatgeek · Apr 4, 2024

Two more blues--D5 and F51.
...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns

lr64 · Apr 5, 2024

I hope I've got this right. Very rough estimate of my static tests so far this year. I'm working at a much smaller scale than you guys! I admit if I start making 10 flights per day I may stop keeping track. Maybe I'll make a guesstimate when I use up my first pound of KNO3, which might be in the next millennium. Lessee.. if my typical Isp is 65 and the KNO3 is 60 percent by weight (can I say that here? The rest of the propellant is eye of newt.), and I waste 20 percent.... This assumes I don't make any bigger motors.
...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 404.3 Ns (L0, 14 motors, 14 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

RiffD · Apr 6, 2024

Weather wasn't the best today, definitely the coldest launch of the year and windy to start the day. Fortunately the wind was slowly dying down through the afternoon enough to allow me to make and pass a L1 attempt.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

lr64 · Apr 6, 2024

This is one of those competitions where the low number wins, right? ;-)

boatgeek · Apr 6, 2024

lr64 said:
This is one of those competitions where the low number wins, right? ;-)

It’s not a competition, in exactly the same way that two sailboats in sight of each other are not a race.

lr64 · Apr 6, 2024

I think meters of altitude per Newton seconds of impulse would be better, IF it's going to be a competition.

I've experienced what you mean about sailboats a number of times, even with very disparate boats. For instance, the time I chased a 30 or 40 foot Wharram catamaran with a Windsurfer.

boatgeek · Apr 7, 2024

lr64 said:
I think meters of altitude per Newton seconds of impulse would be better, IF it's going to be a competition.

I've experienced what you mean about sailboats a number of times, even with very disparate boats. For instance, the time I chased a 30 or 40 foot Wharram catamaran with a Windsurfer.

Since this is not nominally a competition thread, let's keep any competitiveness to the background and tallies to the foreground. You are, of course, welcome to start any competition thread you like.

lr64 · Apr 7, 2024

boatgeek said:
Since this is not nominally a competition thread, let's keep any competitiveness to the background and tallies to the foreground. You are, of course, welcome to start any competition thread you like.

I wasn't terribly serious. Obviously, that would require another thread. Plus, is there any altimeter light enough and cheap enough for MMX? ;-)

Donnager · Apr 7, 2024

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 7087.4 Ns (L2, 25 motors, 17 Ex. 9 comm. 11 flights)
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
Donnager..................................... 3764.0 Ns (L2, 4 motors, 4 flights)]
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

DabCat · Apr 7, 2024

Another weekend at FAR. I mixed a 75mm baby N for a friend's project. Motor worked perfectly.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
Dabcat....................................... 17587.4 Ns (L2, 26 motors, 18 Ex. 9 comm. 12 flights)
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
Donnager..................................... 1504.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)]
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
kjhambrick ................................... 359.7 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

kjhambrick · Apr 7, 2024

Flew an AT RMS 38/360 I161W to about 5300 ft in T'Pring's P'Toy today.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
Dabcat ..................................... 17587.4 Ns (L2, 26 motors, 18 Ex. 9 comm. 12 flights)
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
Donnager..................................... 3764.0 Ns (L2, 4 motors, 4 flights)]
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 688.4 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

-- kjh

EDIT: re-merged @Donnager's new entry

BEC · Apr 8, 2024

lr64 said:
I wasn't terribly serious. Obviously, that would require another thread. Plus, is there any altimeter light enough and cheap enough for MMX? ;-)

I have flown a (currently unobtanium) FlightSketch Comp in an MMX model. Whether it’s cheap enough (should it become available again) or not I can’t say. Data are HERE. That flight would be in the 2021 Newton Tally somewhere…..

lr64 · Apr 8, 2024

BEC said:
I have flown a (currently unobtanium) FlightSketch Comp in an MMX model. Whether it’s cheap enough (should it become available again) or not I can’t say. Data are HERE. That flight would be in the 2021 Newton Tally somewhere…..

Interesting. That IS light enough for an MMX, though it's still a substantial weight penalty. I see what seem to be comparable gadgets on eRockets.

krislhull · Apr 14, 2024

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
Dabcat ..................................... 17587.4 Ns (L2, 26 motors, 18 Ex. 9 comm. 12 flights)
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
Donnager..................................... 3764.0 Ns (L2, 4 motors, 4 flights)]
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 688.4 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Krislhull..................................... 603.5 Ns (L3, 6 motors, 6 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

DabCat · Apr 14, 2024

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
Dabcat ..................................... 20777.9 Ns (L2, 31 motors, 20 Ex. 11 comm. 16 flights)
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
Donnager..................................... 3764.0 Ns (L2, 4 motors, 4 flights)]
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
Neutronium................................... 1384.0 Ns (L3, 1 motor, 1 flight
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 688.4 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Krislhull..................................... 603.5 Ns (L3, 6 motors, 6 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

Neutronium95 · Apr 15, 2024

How do people count CATO's in this thread? I had a rough day at ROC on Saturday. Two recovery failures and a CATO.

...... R-Motor ............................ 163840.0 Ns
...... Q-Motor ............................. 81920.0 Ns
...... P-Motor ............................. 40960.0 Ns
Wayco....................................... 21832.4 Ns (L3, 23 motors, 7 Ex. 16 comm. 21 flights)
Hardline.................................... 20877.0 Ns (L3, 20 motors, 6 Ex. 14 comm. 20 flights)
...... O-Motor ............................. 20480.0 Ns
Dabcat ..................................... 20777.9 Ns (L2, 31 motors, 20 Ex. 11 comm. 16 flights)
...... N-Motor ............................. 10240.0 Ns
...... M-Motor .............................. 5120.0 Ns
Handeman .................................... 4420.3 Ns (L3, 10 comm. motors, 1 EX, 11 flights)
Neutronium................................... 4379.7 Ns (L3, 5 motors, 5 flights)
Donnager..................................... 3764.0 Ns (L2, 4 motors, 4 flights)
...... L-Motor .............................. 2560.0 Ns
bad_idea......................................1448.6 NS (L2, 11 motors, 7 flights)
...... K-Motor .............................. 1280.0 Ns
kjhambrick ................................... 688.4 Ns (L2, 3 motors, 3 flights)
RiffD ........................................ 678.3 Ns (L1, 19 motors, 19 flights)
...... J-Motor ............................... 640.0 Ns
Krislhull..................................... 603.5 Ns (L3, 6 motors, 6 flights)
Boatgeek.......................................424.8 Ns (L2, 10 motors, 8 flights)
BEC .......................................... 396.3 Ns (L1, 91 motors, 77 flights)
PhlAsh ....................................... 367.5 Ns (L2, 23 motors, 23 flights)
...... I-Motor ............................... 320.0 Ns
noahapiraino ................................. 291.0 Ns (L2, 2 motors, 2 flights)
Rocketjunkie ................................. 240.0 Ns (L3, 3 motors, 1 flight)
...... H-Motor ............................... 160.0 Ns
...... G-Motor ................................ 80.0 Ns
...... F-Motor ................................ 40.0 Ns
...... E-Motor ................................ 20.0 Ns
...... D-Motor ................................ 10.0 Ns
lr64........................................... 9.0 Ns (static tests, estimate)

bad_idea · Apr 15, 2024

Neutronium95 said:
How do people count CATO's in this thread? I had a rough day at ROC on Saturday. Two recovery failures and a CATO.

Haven't had one yet this year, but I've included them in previous years.

Sorry for your rough day, but you'll bounce back.

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