Its trash, all the gorilla glue. Not so much for th elmers, and it the one box its about half filled with spray paints. I have as many supplies(doghouse, rocketarium, aeropack, Apogee, etc) stuff that I don't know what to do with. But merging my two collections is priceless...
Was a little concerned using the mule tape inside the BT. So wanted to use that smaller kelvar line, to a quick link. Also gonna have a nomex shock cord sleeve. But the mule tape is def I think better than the elastic shock cord I bought. But I have use for it on other rockets, I'm not 100% committed one how to run them, but have a very good idea of how I want them. And still gathering info and advice before I epoxy or glue anything. So you might have even changed my mind on how I wanna do it! Thank you, all this helps. I'm gathering info an such, even little but important things like using JB for the motor retainers, learning slipknots, using OpenRocket, making sure to scuff the motor tube, etc...taking notes on paper too as well and digitally. So this is basically improving and refreshing ny build technologies and memory of where I left off in 2013. I'm not rushing to shove the biggest I motor in a small rocket, I want this to be a great L1 cert flight. And if it fails, I have 5 more L1 threads rockets with a true Mega Der Red Max I bought in 2013 I'm gonna build for a 38mm motor later this winter, Aerotech G-Force, Mercury Eng. Integrator, 3D Rocketrys 3Demon, and another Estes Pro-Serieskits. I just want the rockets to have best setup possible, so I'm asking and searching daily when I can...
For HPR, its usually kevlar or tubular nylon - thats what most vendors provide, and both tend to used in kits from vendors. But my question was, why are you combining two different materials in the shock chord instead of just using a single, and since you are already using a type thats normally used in the hobby, what does the second one bring? Not saying you shouldn't, just getting you thinking about it.
Especially when you get into knot strength vs reduction in line strength, and then into braiding, sewing, etc.
I've still been reading, and asking, and watching videos daily for the past few weeks, even bought a paper book. But after seeing what everyone uses, and many different techniques im still looking at options. I had someone who is giving me advice, he has his L1 and L2, and he used the Kelvar line like I have in the spool, and 1/2" elastic shock cord, you can see that in the picture where its all laid out on the floor. Thats what I was going to use when I first starting building this a few weeks ago. I like that setup and have no problem with using it, but also just was given that "mule tape" yesterday and have been looking at 3/8" kevlar strap that rocketry book reccomended, but it seems to be out of stock and im not paying an arm and a leg for shock cord I can buy a spool of. So that's something new added to the mix, and now asking I've seen many said its ok to and they have even been using that mule tape it or a similar brand just from the motor tube centering ring eyelet run the full length to the quicklink at the chute or nosecone however you choose to do it. So I kind of found a better way just yesterday. But my at first my thoughts were a few weeks ago was to use the yellow kevlar line from the motor tube centering eyelet bolt, to about a foot out of the BT, then a quicklink to that elastic. If that elastic cord didn't work good or started to deteriorate over time I could replace it or upgrade it easily that its not all the way down attached at the eyelet bolt in the BT. Its a BT-80 tube and I cannot fit my hand down to take that setup off and use 3/8 kevlar strap instead. But now that I have that mule tape I might run it the entire length. The knots ill work on later, I rather loop whatever I use over the quicklinks and eyelet bolts in the BT and NC and stitch it. I wanted to do this 10 years ago but didn't, I don't have a exact setup for the recovery system. So I just needed to pull the trigger and start planning and actual physical build, which is why I started of with those base parts, and build from that. But there are a few options, so Im looking for the most functional setup for strength and longevity. I got my old collection back, so I have many Choices to build and have on standby for an L1 Cert flight. The Aerotech G-Force, Mercury Engineering Integrator, 3D Rocketry's 3Demon, Estes Partizon, and Estes Mega Der Red Max(but that's getting a 38mm motor along with a few upgrades). Its the good MDRM from back when they sold the 40" tall x 4dia" ones. There's so much info coming in from everywhere from advice to questions. Also learning OpenRocket, joined SPAAR here in PA. Gonna go fly with them in July on the 29th, and hopefully a few more times this year. then next year join URRG or MARS, or MDRA in MD for my L1cert flight when a motor vendor is present. But I'm still remaining patient until I know for sure, how I want it built....Michael B.For HPR, its usually kevlar or tubular nylon - thats what most vendors provide, and both tend to used in kits from vendors. But my question was, why are you combining two different materials in the shock chord instead of just using a single, and since you are already using a type thats normally used in the hobby, what does the second one bring? Not saying you shouldn't, just getting you thinking about it.
Knots is a whole big deep whole to dive into.
For stuff I've done with HPR I mainly use two knots
https://www.animatedknots.com/improved-clinch-knot - tie the shock chord to the quick link, eyebolt/u-bolt or swivel.
https://www.animatedknots.com/alpine-butterfly-loop-knot - introduce a loop into the shock chord line for attaching chutes
But if you read through forums, there are lots of thoughts on this subject
Since I started again I've been using alot of MPR building techniques on the last few builds. Just made an Olympus with one piece thru the wall fins, with tabs, but wrapping the shock cord around the tube and going up and under the CR. But I have that 1/8 kevlar spool, some 135 lb test for the smaller rockets, and bought 10 feet for this one but have better options, and about 2000 years of kevlar mule tape, that for free. So I'm set for a while!! LoL!
Yes, Apogee is well-known for charging a premium on resold products.
