Der BIGGER Red Max™

[Zeta]

Hello Rocket Heads !

fell in love with the der big red max this weekend and want to know about upscale kits out there.

Starting with the Estes 3" Der Big Red Max, were does it go from there, I hear that limited runs of up-scales sell out fast so what's available ?


Thanks !
Zeta

 

[Zeta]

Sorry in advance to anyone that thought they were coming here to see a monster size Red Max build.... (not saying I wouldn't in the future )

 

[user 35280]

AMW has two kits.
https://dehate.com/cart/index.php?o...category&virtuemart_category_id=27&Itemid=482

 

[user 35280]

Launch lab rocketry sells a MDRM Clone.
https://www.launchlabrocketry.com/shop/p/vanderburnmegaderredmaxclonekit

 

[user 35280]

Estes has some of the parts for the MDRM and you can clone it.
https://estesrockets.com/product/072415-pro-series-ii-4-plastic-nose-cone/
https://estesrockets.com/product/085868-pro-series-ii-4-od-slotted-body-tube/

 

[user 35280]

Plywood fins and CR’s are available.
https://www.rocketryworks.com/mega-der-red-max-plywood-fin-upgrade-set-of-3/

 

[tsmith1315]

Hello Rocket Heads !

Oh, now I'm gonna need me a hat!

 

[user 35280]

Oh, now I'm gonna need me a hat!

https://dehate.com/cart/index.php?o...art_product_id=1176&virtuemart_category_id=98

 

[tsmith1315]

https://dehate.com/cart/index.php?o...art_product_id=1176&virtuemart_category_id=98

That's a start, but it needs a rocket attached to the top to be a Rocket Head hat!

Something retro, maybe @Pem Tech's TRF Cardstock Logo Rocket, it would be light. Of course, smoke and fire would be optional...

 

[user 35280]

That's a start, but it needs a rocket attached to the top to be a Rocket Head hat!

Something retro, maybe @Pem Tech's TRF Cardstock Logo Rocket, it would be light. Of course, smoke and fire would be optional...

Or make an optional oddroc out of it. Parts you can add to the hat and launch it from a pad.

 

[Pem Tech]

Or make an optional oddroc out of it. Parts you can add to the hat and launch it from a pad.

Yesssss.........
That would work nicely.

 

[SkyFire]

 

[Rocketjunkie]

That's a start, but it needs a rocket attached to the top to be a Rocket Head hat!

Something retro, maybe @Pem Tech's TRF Cardstock Logo Rocket, it would be light. Of course, smoke and fire would be optional...

Gary Byrum's avatar showed a rocket hat and he did have one (2 pieces of rocket and a head band. https://www.rocketryforum.com/members/gary-byrum.8139/

 

[tsmith1315]

Gary Byrum's avatar showed a rocket hat and he did have one (2 pieces of rocket and a head band. https://www.rocketryforum.com/members/gary-byrum.8139/

I've seen his avatar, it's too good that he'd have a real one!

 

[Zeta]

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Kit? Clone, ? Scratch ? need more info ...specs ? Nice rocket dude !

 

[Bat-mite]

Kit? Clone, ? Scratch ? need more info ...specs ? Nice rocket dude !

That looks like the AMW-ProX Fiber Max. The black fins kind of give it away.

 

[SkyFire]

That looks like the AMW-ProX Fiber Max. The black fins kind of give it away.

Yep!

 

[Theory]

My 4” version in “Iron Max” trim (kudos to stickershock23)

built from Estes and LOC parts.

 

[user 35280]

Looks like performancehobbies.com has a Smokin Rockets Kit 6” diameter Red Max.

 

[Theory]

Looks like performancehobbies.com has a Smokin Rockets Kit 6” diameter Red Max.

recommend calling Ken on that one. not sure that kit has existed for some time...

 

[jimzcatz]

performance hobbies has a 6 inch glass kit available.

 

[RobertH3]

Here's my Mega Der on an H135W - about as big as I'd go with the hollow core fins. I did the clone with Semroc aftermarket rings and fins - painted at 30oz. If you go light, you can use a lot of mid-power motors. If you go plywood or glass, go big on the MMT : )


Cheers / Robert

 

[Zeta]

Robert! Thanks you read my mind. I was going to ask about that. I assume your Max with the hollow core fins has a 29mm MMT? and when you say if you go heavy go big that you are talking about a 38mm or 54MM? Which airframes did you use and how much does your lighter Max weigh ?

Thanks
Zeta

 

[RobertH3]

Mine with Semroc fins is 29mm. If plywood, maybe 38mm. If you can get an AMW Fiberglass Max, whatever you want probably! I used the Estes airframe and had no issues with the H135W. Again, 30oz. I used this rocket with an H115DM for my level one cert. After the above flight, Max was retired to the shop and is hanging above the workbench.
Here's a lift on a G80 New Thunder.

 

[Zeta]

Thanks Robert, great info. I really like that photo of your max in flight !

 

[AHansom]

Scratch build one. These are all 4"Bluetube.

I gave away the fin templates on this site hoping someone could use them.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/fin-templates.166872/

 

[Zeta]

So here is what this thread is really about ..... we were inspired by a MDRM at the range. The red and black color scheme clicked with us and it had a lot of real estate for college decals .... I didn't want to copy the Max but took the form factor cues: drew this up on O.R. ....and ordered some parts from the blue tube guy....I am kinda new to all this so I am a little nuts over stability ??!?!?! so these fins were giving me good numbers but lines diverge from MDRM maybe a bit much ...whatevs ... our kid will get this one for Christmas !

 

[Pem Tech]

Not to start a shooting war but why is the Red Max so popular? Is it the decals, the proportions, the fins?
It really doesn't make me want to run a hot bubble bath and pop a bottle of wine.
But hey, to each their own. But having said that I think these are rockin' upscales.

Scratch build one. These are all 4"Bluetube.

I gave away the fin templates on this site hoping someone could use them.

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/fin-templates.166872/

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[Zeta]

the estes boys are a cult

 

[user 35280]

So here is what this thread is really about ..... we were inspired by a MDRM at the range. The red and black color scheme clicked with us and it had a lot of real estate for college decals .... I didn't want to copy the Max but took the form factor cues: drew this up on O.R. ....and ordered some parts from the blue tube guy....I am kinda new to all this so I am a little nuts over stability ??!?!?! so these fins were giving me good numbers but lines diverge from MDRM maybe a bit much ...whatevs ... our kid will get this one for Christmas !
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You could call it a Goblin Max, as your fins look closer to a Goblin. What cone did you use, it looks to pointy?