CTI Cesaroni Technology

[Adrian A]

There's not much room between 44k and the 50k waiver. Black Rock is really the right venue for this.

 

[jpummil]

I see your point Adrian...

Standing waiver for AIRFest is listed as 50K. Do we have any call in "wiggle room", or does standing waiver imply that call-ins are required for 50K?

 

[BBrown]

I see your point Adrian...

Standing waiver for AIRFest is listed as 50K. Do we have any call in "wiggle room", or does standing waiver imply that call-ins are required for 50K?

The waiver for AirFest is indeed 50,000' AGL. There is no possibility of higher!

This motor has destroyed many a finely designed and constructed MD rocket. I suspect the list of folks who shred trying to win the prize will be long.

Bob

 

[GaryT]

BALLS it is then IF I can swing the trip, Adrian if I do this it'll be in a new custom designed bird so I'll most likely be needing a few Raven3's.

 

[Jeroen_at_CTI]

Getting ready for some more cert firings tomorrow. Some M's an N. Should be fun in this weather. Maybe we'll even toss in a new 'G' if time allows.

Jeroen

 

[bandman444]

Getting ready for some more cert firings tomorrow. Some M's an N. Should be fun in this weather. Maybe we'll even toss in a new 'G' if time allows.

Jeroen

Did I miss the announcement about what was in the earlier session?

 

[CarVac]

I haven't been able to find them anywhere either... When will they be announced? After the next round of tests?

 

[Jeroen_at_CTI]

When will they be announced? After the next round of tests?

That is up to CAR. Probably very soon. I already saw a copy of the draft paperwork.
Jeroen

 

[gdjsky01]

That is up to CAR. Probably very soon. I already saw a copy of the draft paperwork.
Jeroen

Jeroen pls keep us informed! I'm more a Pro24, 29 kinda guy. :grin:

 

[grouch]

Please, daddy needs some 1 grain 24mm smokeys! A skid would be VERY nice as well....hint hint.

 

[SMR]

That is up to CAR. Probably very soon. I already saw a copy of the draft paperwork.
Jeroen

Thanks, Jeroen. Can't hardly wait...

:drool:

 

[nh4clo4]

Getting ready for some more cert firings tomorrow. Some M's an N. Should be fun in this weather. Maybe we'll even toss in a new 'G' if time allows.

Jeroen

So, how did it go today? op:

 

[stickershock23]

Heck I figured I should post this here.

Photo by Ray Lapanse..


L995


Add in 4x 29mm Skids...

 

[gdjsky01]

Heck I figured I should post this here.

Amazing!! I like the red to be honest! :clap:
- Jeff

 

[thobin]

I do a search usually before I ask a question, maybe i'm not entering in the right phrases. Why do all the Cesaroni motor hardware have a rear closure except the 38mm, which the closure is built onto the reload? Is that something all of the motor cases are going to move too?

TA

 

[stickershock23]

I do a search usually before I ask a question, maybe i'm not entering in the right phrases. Why do all the Cesaroni motor hardware have a rear closure except the 38mm, which the closure is built onto the reload? Is that something all of the motor cases are going to move too?

TA

yes the 38mm CTI have the closure "built in" to the reload. They have talked about it and the cost to change them over is probably not worth the change, since the reloads work really well as is..

I will say this though.. if CTI does change the pro 38 to having a metal closure, It would not bother me a bit. I'd be up for the change..

 

[thobin]

So what do you do if you want to do min dia rockets. honestly I think its cool and all but kinda limiting. Especially for the most widely used size. Or am I missing somthing.


TA

 

[Adrian A]

The aft closure is nearly flush with the airframe on MD rockets with thick-walled tubing. Aft closures that have been machined down flush with the case are available for minimum-diameter staged flights.

 

[Pantherjon]

I do a search usually before I ask a question, maybe i'm not entering in the right phrases. Why do all the Cesaroni motor hardware have a rear closure except the 38mm, which the closure is built onto the reload? Is that something all of the motor cases are going to move too?

TA

I believe, and I may be mistaken, but the 38mm size was CTI's initial release in high powered rocketry propulsion..When they started doing the other sizes they made the rear closures part of the case and not reload..

This was related to me 3rd or 5th hand so could be completely bogus..But then again typing in www.pro38.com takes ya to CTI..

 

[cwbullet]

I believe, and I may be mistaken, but the 38mm size was CTI's initial release in high powered rocketry propulsion..When they started doing the other sizes they made the rear closures part of the case and not reload..

This was related to me 3rd or 5th hand so could be completely bogus..But then again typing in www.pro38.com takes ya to CTI..

I have heard the same.

 

[rdh8]

AMW would like to increase the stakes here.
If you buy the N5800 reload/ hardware from me and get the record I will toss in another reload of your choice for the Pro98-6GXL Hardware (or any smaller-sized reload).
So you will get 3 reloads as your prize.

Robert DeHate
www.amwprox.com

CTI is pleased to announced the "Fly the N5800 to a record contest".

Over the last couple of years there have been several attempts to fly a 98mm minimum diameter rocket to extreme altitudes and speeds with the Pro98-6GXL C-STAR N5800 reload. However, AFAWK none of these rockets survived the flight.

CTI would like to encourage others to build a stronger/better rocket and demonstrate that such a flight is actually possible. Therefore this contest.

The winner will be the first to:

* Fly a minimum diameter 98mm rocket;
* With Pro98-6GXL C-STAR N5800 reload;
* Make a full and safe recovery;
* Obtain the official TRA record for this flight;
* Flight before the end of 2012.

Prize: Two reloads of your choice for the Pro98-6GXL hardware (or any smaller-sized reloads).

Jeroen

 

[Menkar]

Hi,

I'm not sure if this thread is the best place to post this, but at least I know some people here are waiting for those.

Here are the .rse and .eng file for the latest CTI certified motors.

Enjoy.

André

View attachment CTI_UpdateApril2012.rseView attachment CTI_UpdateApril2012.eng

 

[Jeroen_at_CTI]

Here are the .rse and .eng file for the latest CTI certified motors.
Enjoy. André

Thanks André! That was fast. Below is CAR/MCC's announcement from this morning. I've attached the updated certified motor overview. Highlighted in yellow are the new reloads.

Jeroen
------------------

A motor testing session was held at the Cesaroni Technology Incorporated facility in Gormley, Ontario
on April 13th & 14th, 2012.

A total of seventeen (17) motors were tested and certified, including motors from Pro24-1G (‘E’ motor) up to the Pro98-6GXL (‘N’ motor):

1. 26-E31-WT-15A (CTI Pro24-1G)
2. 24-E22-SS-13A (CTI Pro24-1G)
3. 60-F50-SK-13A (CTI Pro24-3G)
4. 75-F51-CL-12A (CTI Pro24-3G)
5. 1013-J453-WH-16A (CTI Pro38-6GXL)
6. 654-J316-PK-17A (CTI Pro38-5G)
7. 2833-L805-WH-P (CTI Pro54-6GXL)
8. 1997-K650-PK-21A (CTI Pro54-5G)
9. 2330-K2000-VM-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
10. 3300-L3200-VM-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
11. 3419-L645-GR-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
12. 1955-K735-SK-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
13. 2856-L910-CS-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
14. 4263-L1350-CS-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
15. 2430-K661-BS-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
16. 3727-L1050-BS-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
17. 17907-N2540-GR-P (CTI Pro98-6GXL)

While these motors were certified in Canada, a reciprocal agreement between the Canadian Association of Rocketry, the Tripoli Rocketry Association and the National Association of Rocketry means they may be flown in many jurisdictions.

I am very pleased to announce the certification of these new reloads from Cesaroni Technology, Inc. Simulation files are being prepared, and these official certification letters and the accompanying thrust curves will be available on the official CAR-ACF website soon.

Respectfully submitted,

Thomas Raithby
Chair of CAR Motor Certification
www.CanadianRocketry.org





View attachment CTI_Certified_Motor_Overview.pdf

 

[GaryT]

Damn straight its the right place! Thanks.

 

[rdh8]

And they are in stock!!
See you all at NSL.
Just look for the zoo animals.

Robert DeHate
amwprox.com

Thanks André! That was fast. Below is CAR/MCC's announcement from this morning. I've attached the updated certified motor overview. Highlighted in yellow are the new reloads.

Jeroen
------------------

A motor testing session was held at the Cesaroni Technology Incorporated facility in Gormley, Ontario
on April 13th & 14th, 2012.

A total of seventeen (17) motors were tested and certified, including motors from Pro24-1G (‘E’ motor) up to the Pro98-6GXL (‘N’ motor):

1. 26-E31-WT-15A (CTI Pro24-1G)
2. 24-E22-SS-13A (CTI Pro24-1G)
3. 60-F50-SK-13A (CTI Pro24-3G)
4. 75-F51-CL-12A (CTI Pro24-3G)
5. 1013-J453-WH-16A (CTI Pro38-6GXL)
6. 654-J316-PK-17A (CTI Pro38-5G)
7. 2833-L805-WH-P (CTI Pro54-6GXL)
8. 1997-K650-PK-21A (CTI Pro54-5G)
9. 2330-K2000-VM-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
10. 3300-L3200-VM-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
11. 3419-L645-GR-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
12. 1955-K735-SK-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
13. 2856-L910-CS-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
14. 4263-L1350-CS-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
15. 2430-K661-BS-P (CTI Pro75-2G)
16. 3727-L1050-BS-P (CTI Pro75-3G)
17. 17907-N2540-GR-P (CTI Pro98-6GXL)

While these motors were certified in Canada, a reciprocal agreement between the Canadian Association of Rocketry, the Tripoli Rocketry Association and the National Association of Rocketry means they may be flown in many jurisdictions.

I am very pleased to announce the certification of these new reloads from Cesaroni Technology, Inc. Simulation files are being prepared, and these official certification letters and the accompanying thrust curves will be available on the official CAR-ACF website soon.

Respectfully submitted,

Thomas Raithby
Chair of CAR Motor Certification
www.CanadianRocketry.org

 

[GaryT]

Hi,

I'm not sure if this thread is the best place to post this, but at least I know some people here are waiting for those.

Here are the .rse and .eng file for the latest CTI certified motors.

Enjoy.

André

View attachment 84780View attachment 84781

Andre
Where did the files come from?

 

[GregGleason]

Here is an updated list of the CTI offerings (including those released 2012-05-23), sorted by case, impulse, and propellant type:

Greg

 

[Fe Dude]

6. 654-J316-PK-17A (CTI Pro38-5G)
8. 1997-K650-PK-21A (CTI Pro54-5G)

Are these new Pink offerings?

 

[Rocketman248]

Although, looking at the numbers, I'm guessing it's a 6XL Green. For impulse for a given motor size, it's very close to Red pretty much across the board. The 6GXL Red is 17,709Nsec.

So quit teasin' us, Jeroen! Was my prediction correct?

17. 17907-N2540-GR-P (CTI Pro98-6GXL)

Looks like I nailed that one!

 

[GaryT]

6. 654-J316-PK-17A (CTI Pro38-5G)
8. 1997-K650-PK-21A (CTI Pro54-5G)

Are these new Pink offerings?

Yes