I used to be a fan, but I cannot watch it now. The money needed to compete makes me think it should be semi-pro, not college.
It's been that way for decades. Only now, people are more willing to let the money exchanging hands be a little bit more visible.I used to be a fan, but I cannot watch it now. The money needed to compete makes me think it should be semi-pro, not college.
That might be true. Very disappointing.It's been that way for decades. Only now, people are more willing to let the money exchanging hands be a little bit more visible.
Much of that is only partially true.The absolute worst part of all this is that most of the money needed to run the sports programs is extracted from students as part of tuition.
I think the NCAA should have a rule that requires a significant % of every dollar donated to the althletic program be earmarked for the education needs of students who don't participate in sports.
All good points.The entire idea of these athletic scholarships was for the purpose of getting an education. 95% of these kids will have no professional athletic career. Of the ones that do, the VAST majority of of those will have a career so short it is insufficient to fund the rest of their life.
These kids are getting precious little education, and the likelihood of injury is very high, and the colleges are supporting this. These costs have also spilled over to all students at most universities as athletic fees, which shouldn't be allowed. As much as I may hate it, I'd rather see my school shut down sports than force academic students to subsidize entertainment for alums.
And what school did you go to? Don't tell me, because I've probably never heard of it. And b/c I've never heard of it, when my kid starts thinking about college, I'll be unable to mention your alma mater as a school my kid should consider applying to.I went to a division III school where there are no athletic scholarships. People participate in sports because they enjoy them. Very few division III players make it to the pros. Most likely the purest of collegiate athletics.
All good points.
I do think that there's a lot of value the school and its students indirectly receive as a result of a prominent sports program. Graduating from a school that's known for X, Y or Z in sports is often a good thing when in the professional world. It also helps a lot with recruiting new students and serves as a major marketing tool for the school.
So, let's say the UT Austin spends $50 million each year on its varsity athletic programs. And if the school were to stop all varsity athletic programs, let's say $20 million can be indirectly diverted to education-related things. How much would UT Austin have to spend to "recoup" what it lost (in terms of name recognition, marketing, recruiting, etc.) from the lack of varsity athletics? I would assume (spitballin' here), that whatever they'd have to spend would be more than the $20 million it was able to divert due to the cancellatio of its sports programs. A
And don't forget, a lot of money gets generated by the sports program itself (bowl profit sharing, merchandise, tickets, etc.)
In other words, for every $1 spent and generated) on or from a school's' major sports programs, only 5 cents may be benefiting the general student body. That's not a lot, but it's better than 2 cents the student body would receive from diverted funding if the sports programs were shut down.
I don't think we should shut down sports programs. I think we should mandate sports programs to do more to support the student body. So instead of 5 cents of every dollar going to the education activities of a school (from the money generated by the sports programs), it's 25 cents, for instance.
More good points, but now you're bringing in other things that need to be improved, such as the NFL, how parents raise children, the legal system, etc. Not saying those can't be improved, but those are whole 'nuther cans of worms as they relate to how our society works on a fundamental level.I don't think the benefit is justified. That ^^ 2% is taken as justification for allowing NIL money going to children under 18 (meaning parents and attorneys/agents). These kids will get hosed. More money for attorneys, I guess.
The end result will be more wasted people that could have had a better life being at least partially educated. I think we can do better. If the NFL needs to have a vocational athletic development league, they should find persons to pay for it that actually want it. A primary reason the subsidization takes place is that these costs are borne by loans. If people had to justify these expenses by line item and pay for them out of pocket, I believe this pill wouldn't have been swallowed.
We abuse some injured players by not giving them everything they need after injury.
There is some good name recognition associated with athletics, but there is also bad.
Now, the NFL has a development league for free.
It really all comes down to, "People care about sports far too much."More good points, but now you're bringing in other things that need to be improved, such as the NFL, how parents raise children, the legal system, etc. Not saying those can't be improved, but those are whole 'nuther cans of worms as they relate to how our society works on a fundamental level.
Which college athletic sports are profitable?12% of college athletic programs are profitable.
I feel it's ok for athletics to pay for education, but I don't like it otherway around. This is because we're talking about colleges here, not NFL teams, where the primary goal of a college should be to educate, not fund/operate sports teams.I don't think it's right to subsidize either way.
...and therein lies the problem. Modern college athletics are in most cases, nothing more than the PR arm of the university and deemed worthy of the expense. With the introduction of "pay for play" into college sports, we now are talking about similarities to professional sports organizations. My Alma mater had, arguably, the best football team in college history in 2019. The baseball team has won more NCAA CWSs than all but two (tied for second). You ask someone about the university, they will bring up sports and not their award winning engineering, medical or veterinary programs. It's no longer about excellence that draws accolades, it's now about name recognition... Yes, I'm a little cynical.I feel it's ok for athletics to pay for education, but I don't like it otherway around. This is because we're talking about colleges here, not NFL teams, where the primary goal of a college should be to educate, not fund/operate sports teams.
Come on, you can't deny Joe Burrow was a beast that year. And this is coming from an LSU hater......and therein lies the problem. Modern college athletics are in most cases, nothing more than the PR arm of the university and deemed worthy of the expense. With the introduction of "pay for play" into college sports, we now are talking about similarities to professional sports organizations. My Alma mater had, arguably, the best football team in college history in 2019. The baseball team has won more NCAA CWSs than all but two (tied for second). You ask someone about the university, they will bring up sports and not their award winning engineering, medical or veterinary programs. It's no longer about excellence that draws accolades, it's now about name recognition... Yes, I'm a little cynical.
Someone much wiser than I, and I can't remember who, said this: If the highest paid person at your state university (or state government) is an athletic coach, that state university is, in reality, a sports franchise that runs higher education as a side gig.The fact that the highest-paid state government employee in most states is a college sports coach makes me want to set things on fire.
The absolute worst part of all this is that most of the money needed to run the sports programs is extracted from students as part of tuition. How much student debt is taken on these days for the benefit of the football team rather than the student? And then, of course, those students, along with everyone else, have to go on paying for it through their state taxes.
I've bitterly loathed college football (and basketball to a lesser extent) for a long time. If the NFL wants a minor league to recruit from, they need to be forced to pay for it themselves.
Interesting point. It's like how a lot of companies are in the business of X, but make their money doing Y.Someone much wiser than I, and I can't remember who, said this: If the highest paid person at your state university (or state government) is an athletic coach, that state university is, in reality, a sports franchise that runs higher education as a side gig.
And if they have large endowments then the university in reality is a hedge fund running a sports franchise as a side gig and education a smaller side gig.Someone much wiser than I, and I can't remember who, said this: If the highest paid person at your state university (or state government) is an athletic coach, that state university is, in reality, a sports franchise that runs higher education as a side gig.
JoeyB is the man! He's the next "Brady" or closest thing to it. That year was amazing and did quite a bit of good for the school.Come on, you can't deny Joe Burrow was a beast that year. And this is coming from an LSU hater...
Don't disrespect Joe Burrow by comparing him to that cheater...JoeyB is the man! He's the next "Brady" or closest thing to it. That year was amazing and did quite a bit of good for the school.
Expansion is becoming ridiculous. Loss of camaraderie and region has destroyed college sports. It is now all about the dollar.The Atlantic Coast Conference will be adding Stanford, Cal and SMU next year.
They can keep the acronym but should change the title of the conference to "All Coast Conference".
(BTW Stanford 21, Hawaii 10 at the half).
That's actually pretty clever! I wouldn't be surprised if the change their conference to that name.The Atlantic Coast Conference will be adding Stanford, Cal and SMU next year.
They can keep the acronym but should change the title of the conference to "All Coast Conference".
(BTW Stanford 21, Hawaii 10 at the half).
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