DavidMcCann
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Well, now that that's settled, can we move on to addressing this prohibition congress recently passed on beer, wines and spirits?
We actually brought up the changes at the members meeting at LDRS in April. I realize that not everyone can attend LDRS, but we definitely brought it up as a discussion point, including the fact that due to the recent vote at NFPA we would remove the word "twice" from the HPR Safety Code, which actually reduced the "ridiculously stupid launch distances" to the Safe Launch complex distances that have existed for years.
So a drag race with 10 J motors takes place at the same distance as a cluster of 10 J motors.
The precipitating event that initiated this change was the change by the Technical Committee at NFPA to remove the word "twice" from the rule setting safe distances for mass launches.
There was no intent to target any group or any launch, merely an effort to make our Safety Codes consistent.
Steve Shannon
The fact that the deag race change happened YeARS ago, was recently RELAXED to a closer distance, and everyone is now tearing the BOD when they actually just made it easier to drag race, bears this observation out.
My experience with non profits is that you can't force people to get involved. They simply slide along letting others do the mundane work. Then something happens hey don't like and suddenly hey ask why they weren't involved in that action. But have no interest in all the other hard work that's been done in that time frame.
The fact that the deag race change happened YeARS ago, was recently RELAXED to a closer distance, and everyone is now tearing the BOD when they actually just made it easier to drag race, bears this observation out.
and the initial change was well publicized, I also recall they sent all members a new safety code on cardstock
Well, now that that's settled, can we move on to addressing this prohibition congress recently passed on beer, wines and spirits?
To your first point, you can't force people to get involved but you can be proactive in providing the opportunity to get involved.
To your second point, you keep saying that, but Steve just pointed out that the change happened in May. So... There's that.
To your point about new safety rules... I didn't get one. So... Nope.
Steve... No offense, but if flyer meetings at LDRS is your communication strategy, that sucks. And the TRA website and forum is not an effective communication strategy either... Want proof, have the website manager give you stats on user data. It's super simple. Aside from that, it requires an active step from members to go to the site rather than receive communication from the board. The email system/newsletter works just fine. I find it odd that rule changes and discussion of possible rule changes doesn't occur in that format when emails reach ALL members.
For future, I'd propose that being proactive is better than being reactive. I work with several organizations as secretary, and anything major like this would always be tabled until after input from all members, and that would happen via an announcement, an online place to send your input, and a proper period of time. It's the least we do to ensure that our member-led organizations are actually member-led instead of top-down. It saves us tons of time on the back-end also because we're not putting out the fires of discontent after major changes.
... Just some tips I've learned working in non-profits for a long time. If Tripoli it's an organization by the members for the members, then we really should be much more involved in changes that will affect how we operate at the prefecture level.
Not a flyers' meeting, the Annual Meeting of the corporation.
I realize most people don't go to the website or the Tripoli forum, but online those are the only places where we will make official announcements or discuss future changes. We also send out the Tripoli Report to all members who have provided correct email addresses.
I've tried to be more open by my posts here and on the Tripoli Facebook page, but official business is required by the bylaws to be discussed in a closed forum.
Steve Shannon
Again, the annual forum at LDRS is obliviously not attended by all Tripoli members. That's obvious.
An email is still closed.
And maybe we can change those bylaws.
Nothing says a group of "Good Ol' Boys" can't go have fun when they want to.
David,the drag race rules went into effect years ago. People did ignore them. The NEW rules Reduced the distances in may. Do you get this yet?
note this post from 2012 talking about it- https://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?45277-Drag-racing&p=435005#post435005
David,
Quit focusing on the Tripoli Commercial Safety Code and go do some research on the recent changes made to the Tripoli Research Safety Code. Once you do that I'm guessing you are going to have a "duh" moment.
David,
Quit focusing on the Tripoli Commercial Safety Code and go do some research on the recent changes made to the Tripoli Research Safety Code. Once you do that I'm guessing you are going to have a "duh" moment.
Steve... No offense, but if flyer meetings at LDRS is your communication strategy, that sucks. And the TRA website and forum is not an effective communication strategy either... Want proof, have the website manager give you stats on user data. It's super simple. Aside from that, it requires an active step from members to go to the site rather than receive communication from the board. The email system/newsletter works just fine. I find it odd that rule changes and discussion of possible rule changes doesn't occur in that format when emails reach ALL members.
For future, I'd propose that being proactive is better than being reactive. I work with several organizations as secretary, and anything major like this would always be tabled until after input from all members, and that would happen via an announcement, an online place to send your input, and a proper period of time. It's the least we do to ensure that our member-led organizations are actually member-led instead of top-down. It saves us tons of time on the back-end also because we're not putting out the fires of discontent after major changes.
... Just some tips I've learned working in non-profits for a long time. If Tripoli it's an organization by the members for the members, then we really should be much more involved in changes that will affect how we operate at the prefecture level.
Eric, there is a reason that the email list went away. It was seen by many clients as spam type stuff. Even when it was not being seen as spam, the rate of adoption was not very good.
ok. I reviewed the changes. It appears they cut the distance required for drag races in half. This thread is complaining they "banned" drag races.
I didnt stay at a at a holiday inn last night so someone help me out here.
Well, now that that's settled, can we move on to addressing this prohibition congress recently passed on beer, wines and spirits?
Not so fast! I want to know why I couldn't fly my N-powered monocopter at the Cub Scout launch!
Our ability to launch as freely as we do is hugely dependent on the good self-policing rules and regulations, and proper risk management policies, that we have in place. And we really need to keep that in mind, and keep updating and refining our standards....trying to find and maintain that balance of being free to do what we do, but doing so in a "safe" and responsible manner that will keep the law and public opinion from shutting us down entirely.
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