Thank you, Darrell. Knowing Pat, I was certain that the claim was, at best, pure garbage. Now, we know the truth, as you were party to any discussions that did, or did not, take place regarding this topic.
-Kevin
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160305&postcount=59
Jerry:
"Let's assume the current clear area rule is fine for the moment. The instance we are discussing did not clear the area at all but substituted water. The rule does not allow that. The instance we are discussing had a no sparky rule at the site which was not followed. So this is not a case where the rules were broken, but simply where they were not followed. That is very easy to fix."
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160323&postcount=60
John Chandler:
"The USIL team bought sparky motors even though I specifically asked them not to"
"The range conditions were excellent. Almost dead calm, with maybe 3-4mph gusts. We wet down the pad area prior to launch, and there were three of us standing by with buckets of water near the pad. The grass was dry, but not very high because they had cattle on the field. Barre', Fred Schneider, and I weren't happy about launching a sparky, but we made a judgment call that turned around and bit us. We also weren't aware that sparkys were prohibited...I'd seen them launched at Wayside before. We were at the pad and had contained the fire that we were expecting there as soon as the rocket cleared the tower. It was the little spots of fire 20-30 feet out that got away from us. Barre' immediately called the volunteer fire department, and everyone on site began stomping."
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160447&postcount=97
Pat G:
"Forgive me Jerry. I always thot you were the mean one. Heck, I'm wrong. You ain't mean. Yore a friggin comedian...
No wonder the people who "really own land, not BLM, not folks who *have* to allow access to folks like you", when "you" fill out permits and "demand" your right as a taxpayer, but landowners that grant access to folks all over America, as a favor, where you ain't got no rights when you are demanding, think you are a hoot, if not an idiot.
You want me to share some of their quotes concerning you, when they read your bloody invective? I know you dearly love "quotes". I promise, they are funny.
Pat G
You all know what I have done for you. What has Jerry done for YOU lately? Besides piss off landowners.
PS. Landowners. Pay JI no mind. He is NOT one of us. We tried to drown him as a pup when it was evident he was gonna be just as ugly all grown up, but we messed up not knowing he could hold his breath that long.
Guess we shoulda stuck the other end under water at the same time....
That was derived from a quote btw. From a landowner clear across the country. Jerry, YOU are finally FAMOUS!!
PPS Yes, I'm mean. I ain't got time to be nice to folks who won't be nice.
PPPS I like sparkies. In their place. I have made sparkies that make other sparkies look like a Blue Match.
God bless ya Paul R. Miss ya Bro.
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160450&postcount=99
Pat G:
"FOLLOW THE ... RULE, or change it.
Just always right and I told you so Jerry
****
Whoohoo! Ain't had this much fun since the dawgs ate my brother!
Jerry is pissed. But Retta just called me to bed. Dang.
Jerry, I don't mind, cause you don't matter. Get it? Its mind over matter. Hee hee. I figure, being a comedian and all, you could appreciate that.
Yawn. Nite.
But before I go.
BTW Being rather new to RP, I looked up and saw there was a "private email" feature. When I opened it up, there was about 30 folks telling me atta boy, most of em not even being TRA members.
Maybe I ought to spend more time wrestling pigs. Appears folks like hearing the truth for a change.
Been a hoot. Later. I promise, Jerry. There is a new sheriff in town. Albiet an old cranky geezer. Who won't take ... from you. Sleep tite buddy ;-)
Pat G
PS Years ago Jerry, you told the world "you were going to make me a "poster child". Bad move Bro.
https://www.rocketryplanet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160707&postcount=137
Here Pat supports banning: (5-16-10)
I myself have avoided participating in this forum. Not because it was lacking, because the folks inputting assistance and ideas, to the layout, to the ease of navigation, has made this site one of my favorites. But I knew, just because I was a leader in 2 orgs, regardless of whether I had carnal information of anything that happened *in the past*, made me a target if I participated, regardless of what I said or was trying to convey. As the song says, "I have better things to do".
But thanks to you Darrell, and your moderators, my list of "better things to do", now includes contributing to this list.
Thanks buddy,
Gotta git, have a redeye bound for Germany to board.
Evening friends
Pat G
Jerry's summary:
I posted factual observations. The principal confirmed the facts. Pat "called me out" and "circled the wagons", all while disregarding he was not following the rule he HELPED WRITE and as a BOD member and club leader pledged to follow! He postured but in no way addressed the original point. He bragged about what he has done as if the misdirection was on-topic for a field fire that was completely avoidable by following the published NFPA field clearance rule.
If the moderators here wish to edit "profanity" he used, fine, but for factual clarity I left it in. It is certainly language heard in every high school I am aware of, one the standards for this site.
BTW after I was banned on RP, he was attracted to the site to make two (2) posts since.
6-18-10 LDRS burn incident
7-3-10 David Hailey Sr killed
Just Jerry