Background: I recently got back into the hobby, and have been trying to track down some of the kits I remember from my youth. One of those I never had was a Nova Payloader. While this kit has seen several Re-issues, the most recent one has a different part number, and is a bulk issue kit that can be bought singly from several online suppliers. I noticed immediately when I received the kit that one of the parts seemed “off”. The nose cone from the original was the widely used PNC-50YR (part # 72604), which is 4.1” long. The one included in the most recent Re-issue is #72703. This cone is 4 5/8”, and can be found on many of the current BT-50 RTF models. Unfortunately, this newer cone just doesn’t look right on the classic model.
Since discovering this, I’ve noticed that many currently available kits that are reissues of kits from the 80s and 90s that used the 50YR are now using the newer cone, and have had their model number changed (likely due to the changed cone). Comanche 3, Super Nova Payloader, and Super Neon are three examples. In fact,it seems like the 50YR has been replaced in all the kits that used to use it.
Which gets me back to my title. While browsing acsupplyco, I noticed the Guardian was available both singly and in bulk. However, the kit number is now either 1717 or 1779, instead of the original’s 2179. The pictures all still show the rocket with the original nose cone shape. The different model number may just be because it’s bulk/uncarded, but I suspect it also has the newer cone. After all, why would all those others models change if Estes was still putting 50YRs in the Guardian kits?
So can anyone that has the new bulk kit (1717/1779) verify which cone is included? I’ve attached a photo to help. The cone on the far left is the original 50YR. The two on the right are the newer 4 5/8” cone.
Thanks.
Since discovering this, I’ve noticed that many currently available kits that are reissues of kits from the 80s and 90s that used the 50YR are now using the newer cone, and have had their model number changed (likely due to the changed cone). Comanche 3, Super Nova Payloader, and Super Neon are three examples. In fact,it seems like the 50YR has been replaced in all the kits that used to use it.
Which gets me back to my title. While browsing acsupplyco, I noticed the Guardian was available both singly and in bulk. However, the kit number is now either 1717 or 1779, instead of the original’s 2179. The pictures all still show the rocket with the original nose cone shape. The different model number may just be because it’s bulk/uncarded, but I suspect it also has the newer cone. After all, why would all those others models change if Estes was still putting 50YRs in the Guardian kits?
So can anyone that has the new bulk kit (1717/1779) verify which cone is included? I’ve attached a photo to help. The cone on the far left is the original 50YR. The two on the right are the newer 4 5/8” cone.
Thanks.