AMW/PRO X 54mm motors

[crossfire]

Hi
Does anyone have a drawing or picture of how the 54mm AMW/PRO X compatible CTI reloads are assembled?

Thanks

 

[jimzcatz]

Its pretty cut and dry. Grains go in liner,orings on closures. Theres orings for the nozzle adapter(sold separately). Button up with snaprings. Do you really need instructions? Plus, they should be in the reload kit. Not trying to be a smart ass. I have a few of these, I can take a pic of the instructions if you want.

 

[crossfire]

Jim it would be nice if you could take a few pictures or a instruction picture.
I just never seen the nozzle carrier before.

 

[jsdemar]

Instructions attached.

Video instructions from Robert DeHate:

 

[crossfire]

Instructions attached.

Video instructions from Robert DeHate:

Just what I needed to see. I couldn't find a video anywhere
Thanks so much

 

[Dave A]

See attached generic instructions attached from AMW.
Most of them require the AMW nozzle holder. A few require an AMW style graphite nozzle.
They are the easiest of all the snap ring loads to build, IMHO.
AMW/ProX has some left but not a lot out there but they are priced lower than comparable AT/CTI loads/
AMW/PoX has the 54mm nozzle holder.

 

[crossfire]

I am hopeing AMW can bring back some of the reloads.

 

[3stoogesrocketry]

I am hopeing AMW can bring back some of the reloads.

CTI still manufactures all the prox loads.

 

[crossfire]

CTI still manufactures all the prox loads.

There dose not seem to many available for sale.

 

[3stoogesrocketry]

There dose not seem to many available for sale.

Because vendors are not stocking them . CTI put out a memo last year stating the same. AMW PROX is about the best go to for what you need. They even have a couple 54mm Scaled Tiger loads still.

 

[crossfire]

Because vendors are not stocking them . CTI put out a memo last year stating the same. AMW PROX is about the best go to for what you need. They even have a couple 54mm Scaled Tiger loads still.

Maybe with the troubles some are having with CTI forward closure failures AMW iis the way to go.

 

[3stoogesrocketry]

Maybe with the troubles some are having with CTI forward closure failures AMW iis the way to go.

I'm not sure I would fully agree with this statement. Fitment can be a issue with any motor at the bulkhead liner interface. In my own opinion only , QC slipped at CTI.

 

[Tarantula]

If someone wanted to try out "snap ring" style hardware in the 38mm/54mm range, would Loki Research be a better choice than trying to figure out which CTI reloads work with AMW-ProX hardware?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about AMW-ProX hardware and reloads.

The Loki Research web site looks to be up to date and has clear information on which reloads fit their hardware.

There is very little info on the AMW-ProX web site about their hardware.

I am not knocking AMW. I love to see them at events. I have purchased CTI hardware and reloads from them in Argonia. They are great to work with.

Are there other snap-ring hardware manufacturers to look at?

 

[jimzcatz]

OK, here it is. CTI make loads for snap ring hardware 54/1050 thru 2550. Most of them use a disposable nozzle. All you need is a nozzle carrier and forward bulkhead and a few washers plus the case. They also make loads for the 75/6000 and 7600
All these loads are sold as cti/animal compatible. Every CTI PRO 75 load can be used in the corresponding snap ring case with a nozzle carrier and the amw hubcap adapter. The hubcap is sold by CTI as a set with the adapter and nozzle carrier. I hope this helps.

 

[Brent]

These and the Kosdon by Aerotech loads were the most economical motors to fly. (Hint Gary please bring them back out)

 

[Dave A]

Hi
Does anyone have a drawing or picture of how the 54mm AMW/PRO X compatible CTI reloads are assembled?

Thanks

Here you go!

 

[Tarantula]

AMW-PROX

... and here is a YouTube video showing the assembly of an AMW-PROX motor:

AMW-Prox Assembly Instructions

 

[UPscaler]

These and the Kosdon by Aerotech loads were the most economical motors to fly. (Hint Gary please bring them back out)

I would love for L2300s and M1450s to make a return.

Braden

 

[jimzcatz]

M3500 red

 

[jimzcatz]

If someone wanted to try out "snap ring" style hardware in the 38mm/54mm range, would Loki Research be a better choice than trying to figure out which CTI reloads work with AMW-ProX hardware?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about AMW-ProX hardware and reloads.

The Loki Research web site looks to be up to date and has clear information on which reloads fit their hardware.

There is very little info on the AMW-ProX web site about their hardware.

I am not knocking AMW. I love to see them at events. I have purchased CTI hardware and reloads from them in Argonia. They are great to work with.

Are there other snap-ring hardware manufacturers to look at?

No confusion. They are plainly marked as to what load fits what case. They are not marked per grain count like the pro54 but 54/1050,1440,1750and 2550.

 

[jhill9693]

See attached generic instructions attached from AMW.
Most of them require the AMW nozzle holder. A few require an AMW style graphite nozzle.
They are the easiest of all the snap ring loads to build, IMHO.
AMW/ProX has some left but not a lot out there but they are priced lower than comparable AT/CTI loads/
AMW/PoX has the 54mm nozzle holder.

Page 3 of the instructions lists (2) nozzle washers in the required hardware list, but the diagram on Page 2 only shows the placement of a single nozzle washer, apparently.

Elsewhere I saw something indicating the 54-2550 case specifically uses a thicker nozzle washer. Does the required hardware on page 3 assume normal 54mm nozzle washers which are to be stacked for the 2550 case, and the diagram on page 2 assumes a single thicker washer? Or is there a defect in the diagram on page 2?

 

[jimzcatz]

Page 3 of the instructions lists (2) nozzle washers in the required hardware list, but the diagram on Page 2 only shows the placement of a single nozzle washer, apparently.

Elsewhere I saw something indicating the 54-2550 case specifically uses a thicker nozzle washer. Does the required hardware on page 3 assume normal 54mm nozzle washers which are to be stacked for the 2550 case, and the diagram on page 2 assumes a single thicker washer? Or is there a defect in the diagram on page 2?

The additional noodle washers are for the forward end to take up space. I have used one on the nozzle and 3 forward in the past. I have only used 2550 loads.

 

[Dave A]

Yes, only one nozzle washer is required at the aft end. Nozzle washers can be added at the forward end to make up space as Jim said. Some have used short pieces of PVC OR CPVC ( whichever fits the tube) if a larger spacer is needed.

 

[Art Upton]

I am glad this thread came up.

I have Pro54/38 reloads I plan to sell at my JMRC club but I also have a 54 Pro-X Blue Baboon.

I wanted to make sure I had a Nozzle Carrier Robert talked about and I bought one from him at Geneseo.
I think I have found it based on the Instructions posted but here is a picture.

Is this the Nozzle Carrier for the 54? It sure looks like it to fit AMW [and Loki} cases:

 

[Dave A]

Yes, fits most any 54mm snap ring case.