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Hello, Frank. If you need guidance on how to build the motor, may I assume this is your first motor build? If so, why not get some practice building MPR motors (like F and G impulse) before jumping headfirst into an H?

Also, be prepared ... I can't remember if it is NAR, TRA, or both, but the person who signs your paperwork may need to watch you build the motor. Hopefully that person will be kind enough to warn you if he/she sees you about to do something wrong.

I'll second this suggestion, it is a great idea. Besides being a ton of fun (and affordable), flying some mid power reloads in a 24/40 or 29mm case makes the transition to high power much simpler. Mostly the same, just a bit bigger.
 
I'll second this suggestion, it is a great idea. Besides being a ton of fun (and affordable), flying some mid power reloads in a 24/40 or 29mm case makes the transition to high power much simpler. Mostly the same, just a bit bigger.

Considering the 24/40 and 29/40-120 reloads are smaller physically and therefore harder to handle the smaller bits, and that they're more complex in my opinion, I don't see any reason to practice on smaller motors before building a 38/240 load. I find the 38's simpler than the hobbyline loads.


Nice to meet you all. My name is Frank Davis and I'm new to HPR. I recently bought an H130W-14 and have the Hardware and RAS system to go with it. Need some guidance on putting this together. Thank you all for your time, and look forward to flying with many of you.

Nice to meet you! and Welcome to the insanity.

This video shows a 38/240 assembly. It's a good basic thing to review, but you'll need a couple more steps for the RAS, more on that to follow.


Hello, Frank. If you need guidance on how to build the motor, may I assume this is your first motor build? If so, why not get some practice building MPR motors (like F and G impulse) before jumping headfirst into an H?

As mentioned above, I think this is unneeded advice. There's no need to play with F (which are more complex) and G motors before doing something as simple as a 38/240.

Hi Frank
I will be up there this Saturday and Sunday and will be happy to help you out if you have questions .

This guy is Tim. Also, the dude that made the wildman Jr you're flying. Cool dude, and I have to say I've seen newbies in the back of his trailer who wanted to get in way over their head and he gave them sound advice and a clear, reasonable direction to go. I'd go see him, build the motor, fly it, get the cert, then go back to the trailer and buy a J500G and stuff it into a 38/720 case and get your L2 :) THHHHHEEEEEN I'd buy the case for a J510W and fly it.....but I'm an instigator. ;)
 
Hi Frank - welcome to the forum.

I fly with both TWA and Woosh at Bong. Unfortunately, I won't be there this coming weekend to see your successful L1 flight (Homecoming Dance at school) - I can share some tips that might make your cert a bit less stressful. :D:D:D

BRING YOUR CARD
I assume you are a member of a NATIONAL organization either Tripoli or NAR. If not, you have to join one or the other before you can cert. You don't necessarily need to be a member of WOOSH or TRA, but you do need to bring your TRA or NAR card (or a receipt if you just joined) Hint - join online before the launch.

A CHECKLIST IS YOUR FRIEND
Remember to bring the rocket and motor and any other stuff... parachute, camera, etc. It's easy to forget things. Make a list.

BRING A PRINT-OUT
Super prepared people (like you and me ;)) go online and print out the cert form at home. NAR FORM TRA FORM
When you print out the form at home, you get a chance to look it over and see just what you are getting into. :eek: Also, the NAR form can be filled in with your information (It's a fillable PDF doc) so all your info is nice and legible. (you can fill in the TRA form with a pen) The NAR form has an excellent Safety Checklist that will really help you understand what the cert-team is looking for when they examine your rocket. Read that checklist over about 6 or 8 times to become a safety expert. Bring the checklist along, the cert-team will fill it in. BONUS POINTS :cool::cool::cool: bring a stamped business-size envelope addressed to NAR or TRA so you are ready to mail in the completed cert. (WOW are you prepared or what?!?!:rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:)

KNOW YOUR CP & CG
Mark the CP (Center of Pressure) right on the rocket with paint or a magic marker. You will find the CP in the kit instructions or in the sim you created or modified to match YOUR rocket dimensions. If possible, put your rocket together just like you would when getting ready to fly it. Maybe do this a couple of times cause its good practice. If you are using one of those motors that need to be built ** don't build it ahead of time ** The cert-team will want to watch you (might assist you) to build it. Use something that weighs the same as the motor when you are putting it all together at home. When you have it all together - including the right motor weight - BALANCE IT. Where it balances is the CG (center of gravity). This next part is key. The rocket must balance at least one diameter in-front-of (closer to the nosecone) than the CP. EXAMPLE - a 3-inch diameter rocket must balance at least 3 inches (or more) ahead of the CP. Most kits are designed this way and you usually have nothing to worry about. If the rocket is not balancing far enough forward - you must add nose weight until it does. SHOW-OFF POINTS:p:p:p Bring a sim print-out (OpenRocket or RocSim) to show the cert team. Totally unnecessary for L1, but some superstars just can't help going overboard.

BRING FRIENDS
Friends and family can help you celebrate your successful cert. Plus they are helpful to watch where the rocket went. Ya gotta' bring it back in good condition after the flight to complete the cert. Many people will say "recovery is the hardest part of rocketry'... they're not lyin!:mad::confused::eek::oops:

ROCKET FOLKS ARE FRIENDLY
Please ask ton's of questions and have lots of fun. This is gonna' be a BLAST!

-Good Luck!:D
Thank you all for the sound advice. Truly a great club and a very helpful kind people. I did not qualify, but I did learn a lot. I will be joining this club soon. I would like to get better involved when I can. Also, I did win a Semper Fi rocket! How awesome is that after destroying my Wildman Jr. I put in shear pins (watched to many dual deploy videos) when I shouldn't have.
Thank you all so much, truly a great experience.
 
Frank sorry about your lose this weekend.
And glad you won a new kit at the same time. That was karma at its best.
I hope to see you at MWP.
Learned a lot Tim. Thanks for all the advice. Will be ordering soon. Going to put Wildman Jr. back together again. And will be building that Semper Fi rocket.
 
Thank you all for the sound advice. Truly a great club and a very helpful kind people. I did not qualify, but I did learn a lot. I will be joining this club soon. I would like to get better involved when I can. Also, I did win a Semper Fi rocket! How awesome is that after destroying my Wildman Jr. I put in shear pins (watched to many dual deploy videos) when I shouldn't have.
Thank you all so much, truly a great experience.

Frank - come to Midwest Power this November 15-17 https://www.midwestpower.org/ if you can.

That's where I got my Jr L1 and M1 certifications. Princeton is only a couple of hours drive south of Bong - to a FANTASTIC launch site.

- and about your little setback at Bong... I certified, on my FOURTH attempt. :oops::oops::oops::oops: hey nobody's perfect. :D

Here's a photo from my 3rd failure. My mentor 'augmented' the ejection charge for me - to make sure the laundry came out * * * * * BLAMO!!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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