Jolly Logic Chute Release, chutes not inflating....

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I've had multiple failures where a JLCR activates without chute deployment. One of these resulted in a broken Eggfinder and Quantum :( (I was using the Quantum to deploy at apogee and the JLCR as the "main" in a stubby rocket without room for traditional DD). I have since reflown that one successfully with a different packing technique and increased tension (I use a sewing elastic band and adjust the knot to tailor tension for each 'chute, holds up a lot better than the rubber bands which all deteriorated on me).

One rocket I always have issues with is the MDRM - my JLCR deployments on that one have about a 50% success rate. I think the main issue with that one is that the huge fins and light weight of the rocket mean that it falls relatively slowly in a tumbling fashion. It's almost as if it doesn't achieve enough downward velocity to result in a solid positive inflation of the chute. My rockets that fall faster seem to have chutes that snap open with authority.
I've had 100% success until this last weekend; aside from the low deployment.
 
I like this setup here. What exactly is the sled made of? It looks like a shoe-horn, lol. Also, you have a nice coiled/taped shock cord that I was admiring.

Hi Don, This is one is made out of a mailing tube coated in colored finish epoxy, just happen to be the right size. These are made from Polycarbonate, sort of a production prototype.
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Hi Don, This is one is made out of a mailing tube coated in colored finish epoxy, just happen to be the right size. These are made from Polycarbonate, sort of a production prototype.
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These are very nice. I've been debating whether to use a CR or actual deployment bag but this sled looks like it would be easy peasy to slide out the CR. Does it work well for you? Looks like the bees knees :)
 
These are very nice. I've been debating whether to use a CR or actual deployment bag but this sled looks like it would be easy peasy to slide out the CR. Does it work well for you? Looks like the bees knees :)

Yep, Never had a failed deployment using one. The concept was developed after a larger chute failed to inflate while using a JLCR. Using inflight video determined that the harness can wrap around the chute. Next to impossible w/ the harness running through the sled. Further the sled acts as a sort of body tube to contain the chute and the band on the JLCR naturally grips the sled.

https://www.facebook.com/TheMarvinW...Ta-gvpqNdAJpEGyKA_jwH_-tNErb4QwmLF5&__tn__=-R
 
Oh, and for the OP, it looks like you wrapped the band around your chute pack more than once? That's a really bad idea! If you need more tension, use a shorter band or pack differently, a multi-wrap is just asking for a hang up.

In small diameter rockets, I have had much more success with folding teh chute over the JLCR and then wrapping the band a wrap and a half. See post #9 here for pictures: https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/jlcr-in-38mm-rockets.149016/#post-1829002 That's more to prevent the bundle from jamming in the tube and failing to eject. That said, wrapping more than once around the chute alone is asking for trouble.
 
I think I saw all 5 times :(. Pretty sure I could have fixed all your ills and thought I had spoken with you :) about it. If not my apologies. I have had spurious issues like these with John's release as well. The recovery or "chute sled" is the answer. I actually posted about it prior to BBoff on the Event page... https://www.facebook.com/events/251326039020364/permalink/281482922671342/

Is there a non facebag link for the slide? Fakebook won’t let me see the post without having a login.
 
Follow UP: @John Beans advice was spot on, Just flew this past saturday at Spaceport Rocketry in Palm bay, packed the chutes hard as a rock, like John suggested and had many flights without issue. The estes pro series chutes are thick material and a bit grabby apparently with the bands, so pack em tight seems to be the trick.
 
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