Love coffee

[Winston]

I recently learned something which may be of interest to coffee drinkers like me, something that the serious ones have probably known for a very long time. Virtually all of the coffee beans and ground coffee sold in this country is improperly roasted, intentionally burned to destroy any variations in flavor from batch to batch, something which eliminates pleasant flavors present in properly roasted coffee, and which allows the use of cheaper beans.

Burned Beans — The Shame of Starbucks

https://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/03/09/burned-beans-the-shame-of-starbucks/

Tech stuff

https://lisasimplyme.blogspot.com/2011/10/burnt-burned-coffee-taste-what-theyre.html

Do Me a Favor. Stop Buying Bad Coffee.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicholas-thompson/do-me-a-favor-stop-buying_b_2573097.html

What properly roasted coffee bean grounds should typically look like:

 

[Scotty Dog]

I recently learned something which may be of interest to coffee drinkers like me, something that the serious ones have probably known for a very long time. Virtually all of the coffee beans and ground coffee sold in this country is improperly roasted, intentionally burned to destroy any variations in flavor from batch to batch, something which eliminates pleasant flavors present in properly roasted coffee, and which allows the use of cheaper beans.

Burned Beans — The Shame of Starbucks

https://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/03/09/burned-beans-the-shame-of-starbucks/

https://lisasimplyme.blogspot.com/2011/10/burnt-burned-coffee-taste-what-theyre.html

That burns me. I wounder if thats why the coffee at this place taste like crap.Its all a good brand,but they brew it way to HOT. So hot you have to double cup it.

 

[Winston]

That burns me. I wounder if thats why the coffee at this place taste like crap.Its all a good brand,but they brew it way to HOT. So hot you have to double cup it.

Having been in places where a large coffee brewer has day-old coffee in it and I still drink it and somewhat enjoy it, I'm not picky, but the burned bean thing made me realize that I've probably never even tasted coffee made from properly prepared beans despite the many gallons of coffee I've downed over the years. Even the coffee houses like Starbucks intentionally burn their beans.

 

[StefanJ]

The shame of burned beans aside, the coffee that is available today -- beans and grinds for home use, and prepared stuff -- is leagues better than what was around 20 years ago. We've gotten a lot more aware and pickier.

MAKE magazine has run several articles by and for coffee gourmets; the editor in chief is a coffee fanatic. They had plans for a DIY bean roaster, and for adding a microcontroller to espresso makers so that the temperature was exactly right.

 

[Peartree]

This is a plug, but given the nature of this thread, I thought some of you might be interested. JT Peifer is the son of a friend of mine. He grew up as a missionary kid (MK) in Kenya, fell in love with coffee, and started is own coffee shop. He came back to the US for college and worked in a coffee house and then ran one. Now he owns his own small coffee roaster and wants to expand his business and is trying to fund it using Kickstarter. You can read more about it here: Feisty Goat Coffee Roasters

 

[Luke]

Where would I be without my trusty italian percolator...

 

[iqsy59]

This is one of the many reasons that I roast my own coffee. You can have the best coffees on the planet for half the price of Starbucks and you can't get any fresher than roasting it your kitchen (or garage) and drinking it 12 hours later!

If you want to know more, feel free to send me a PM...

Cheers,
Michael

 

[Luke]

explain for the good of the group! I have a bean grinder. Just easier to always buy lavazza ground.

 

[ChrisAttebery]

I find that most coffee is brewed way too strong for my taste. I use 2 TBSP for a 12 oz cup. I like Starbucks Verona. It's a dark sweet roast.

I find it interesting that CR liked Dunkin better. To me Dunkin's coffee is too strong and bitter.

 

[JPVegh]

Been drinking burnt bean coffee my whole life, I'm no coffee snob. Three to four cups of hot, black, bargain brand coffee goodness gets me up and going every day. I have a friend who spends 15-20 minutes every morning making coffee, with the grinding and the slowly pouring the water over the grounds, all for one cup. Who has the time or patience for that kind of thing? I put the coffee and water in the machine at night, set the timer and the smell wakes me up in the morning. Awesome black gold for only 3¢ a cup.

 

[TopRamen]

I can only drink Instant Coffee. For Years I had what doctor called "Contact Dermititis". The Skin on my Hands would break out in Rashes then dry up and crack and Bleed. I was a big fan of Coffee, and drank all kinds of it. When I joined the Army, it stopped. I still was eating the Instant Coffee Packets out of the MREs, but did not yet make the Correlation.
Upon returning home, I had a Cup of fresh brewed "Real" Coffee. Within hours my Skin had begun to react. I realized that after all of these years not knowing what was wromg with me, that I was simply allergic to Real Coffee.:y:
I have the same reaction to Aspirin too.
Now I happily enjoy my Instant Coffee, Black, no Sugar.

 

[goldlizard]

This is one of the many reasons that I roast my own coffee. You can have the best coffees on the planet for half the price of Starbucks and you can't get any fresher than roasting it your kitchen (or garage) and drinking it 12 hours later!

If you want to know more, feel free to send me a PM...

Cheers,
Michael

I roast my own also. Starbucks not only burns their coffee but they get the beans that the other coffee companies turn down! Not only are they burning the coffee, they are getting the lowest quality of beans.
For the price of 3-4 cups of tarbucks, you can buy 5lbs. of green beans and do it yourself. No, you don't need to buy a fancy roaster. I use a old fashion popcorn maker with the crank on top. The trick to stove top bean roasting, is low heat and keep the beans moving. Also if you do it indoors, you will smoke up your house, although I don't mind, I love the smell of fresh roasted coffee, your wives may have a cow because the whole house smells like a coffee house.

 

[michigander]

my brother roasts and grinds , the best he has done is Estate grown Kona green beans $25.00 per lb.

very happy for everyday with costa rican tarrazu

https://greencoffees.coffeebeandire...al-america/unroasted-costa-rican-tarrazu.html

for brewing https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-royal-...all_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item4175ed6ed1

 

[kyle]

Best thing I ever did was to buy my wife a coffee roaster for her birthday a few years ago. Fresh, non-burned coffee is so much better than anything commercially available. It's the drum roasters that are used for large batch roasting that causes the burning. Small home air roasters allow a much lighter, more controlled roast that results in brighter flavors which are unattainable in commercially roasted coffee.

 

[kyle]

I roast my own also. Starbucks not only burns their coffee but they get the beans that the other coffee companies turn down! Not only are they burning the coffee, they are getting the lowest quality of beans.
For the price of 3-4 cups of tarbucks, you can buy 5lbs. of green beans and do it yourself. No, you don't need to buy a fancy roaster. I use a old fashion popcorn maker with the crank on top. The trick to stove top bean roasting, is low heat and keep the beans moving. Also if you do it indoors, you will smoke up your house, although I don't mind, I love the smell of fresh roasted coffee, your wives may have a cow because the whole house smells like a coffee house.

I've wanted to try stove top roasting, just to compare the taste with that of the air roaster. My office is about a hundred yards from my house. I love walking out the office door and smelling that my wife is roasting coffee at home.

 

[goldlizard]

I've wanted to try stove top roasting, just to compare the taste with that of the air roaster. My office is about a hundred yards from my house. I love walking out the office door and smelling that my wife is roasting coffee at home.

It is easy, just keep the beans moving. Either stir with a wooden spoon or keep shaking the pan like a Jiffy pop popcorn tin pan. The spoon method allows you to get the beans off of the bottom. Once they start smoking remove the heat and keep stirring. The beans will continue to roast do to internal heat. You want an even blend of dark, medium and light colored beans.
Then let set 12-24 hours, grind, brew and enjoy.

 

[brianc]

where does everyone source their raw, non-roasted beans?

 

[iqsy59]

where does everyone source their raw, non-roasted beans?

A really good starting point is sweetmarias.com. Not only do they offer great coffees, but they have a library that will guide you along the way.

Cheers,
Michael

 

[Wayco]

Never liked Starbucks. We have three different pure Kona coffee beans and Jamaican Blue Mountain all in a medium roast. I choose a different bean each day and set up the coffee maker the night before, so I just have to push the button in the morning. Our Krups coffee maker burr grinds the whole beans and immediately brews it through a gold cone filter. No burnt coffee in our house.
Yeah, we've been coffee snobs since 1983 when we visited Hawaii and drank our first cup of Kona.

 

[AfterBurners]

so where do you buy good beans. I buy the 3lb bag of Columbia beans at COSTCO for around $13.50 A good price considering how coffee the girlfriend and I drink. We have a grind and brew coffee machine that will grind the beans and brew immediately so it's really fresh. Good stuyff, but I'm always looking for better coffee without paying a small fortune.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

Has anyone tried Lewak Coffee? The beans are picked out of the poop of a jittery weasel.

 

[goldlizard]

where does everyone source their raw, non-roasted beans?

I go through Burman Coffee Traders and Coffee Bean Direct.

 

[TopRamen]

Has anyone tried Lewak Coffee? The beans are picked out of the poop of a jittery weasel.

It's not a Jittery Weasel, it's a Civet Cat. It's Kopi Luwak:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

 

[iqsy59]

Has anyone tried Lewak Coffee? The beans are picked out of the poop of a jittery weasel.

I've tried it. It's not great, but not because it passed through the bowels of a civet cat...but because it is rather low-grade beans grown at a low altitude in Indonesia. Now, Jacu Bird coffee from Brazil is not bad. These large creatures seem to only harvest the perfectly ripe beans!

Cheers,
Michael

 

[matthewdlaudato]

I am a creature of habit. I grew up in NYC drinking Chock Full O Nuts coffee. I now drink Chock Full O Nuts coffee in K-cups when I can get it, and Green Mountain Double Black Diamond, also in K-Cups, which I find to be a good, strong morning coffee. I experimented with fancy coffees and other questionable activities in college but grew out of it ;-) I also have a general rule of not consuming anything that came out of the butt of an animal!

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

It's not a Jittery Weasel, it's a Civet Cat. It's Kopi Luwak:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

Feed a Civet Cat a kilo of coffee beans, and see if he doesn't become a Jittery Weasel. I know I do.

I wonder if you can make something like this at home by feeding raw beans to your own cat.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I also have a general rule of not consuming anything that came out of the butt of an animal!

But this is a well-known Bear Grylls survival technique.

 

[ThirstyBarbarian]

I've tried it. It's not great, but not because it passed through the bowels of a civet cat...but because it is rather low-grade beans grown at a low altitude in Indonesia. Now, Jacu Bird coffee from Brazil is not bad. These large creatures seem to only harvest the perfectly ripe beans!

Cheers,
Michael

Does it taste "nutty?"

 

[michigander]

Feed a Civet Cat a kilo of coffee beans, and see if he doesn't become a Jittery Weasel. I know I do.

I wonder if you can make something like this at home by feeding raw beans to your own cat.

counterfeit poop will be caught

https://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2...-cat-poop-coffee-fake-there-s-a-test-for-that

 

[matthewdlaudato]

But this is a well-known Bear Grylls survival technique.

Then I am dead meat!