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is there any chance you might give us a hint as to your new rocket???

Dr.Zooch said:
Just one of my personal birds, not a new kit.

There is, however, a new kit in the works- so be prepared for a beta next month. Two of the three videos that I shot on Sunday were for that upcoming kit... it is small, will be an inexpensive easy-build that flies great. It can fly on one, or three engines. It will be released with another video. I still have several slo-moes to shoot of it, however.
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NJRick said:
I knew you were going to say that.... security is tight in the R&D department...
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No information leaks out of Area 102, where the secret Zooch development labs are located...

It's twice as secret as Area 51...

Later! OL JR :)
 
luke strawwalker said:
Yessir... and no more likely to fly in that paint scheme than for me to photoshop a picture of me on a date with Heidi Klum... LOL:)

Later! OL JR :)
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I get the point the SLS is not going to have the saturn V paint scheme!
I knew this before 6 people bombarded me with it on all of my posts related to it :p
Cant a guy have some wishful thinking!? ;)
 
Odo said:
I get the point the SLS is not going to have the saturn V paint scheme!
I knew this before 6 people bombarded me with it on all of my posts related to it :p
Cant a guy have some wishful thinking!? ;)
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Sorry if this post sounded like it contained malice, it was purely intended for humor, just as your comment was.
I came back and read it again and thought it might be mis interpreted.
 
Dr.Zooch said:
There is, however, a new kit in the works- so be prepared for a beta next month. Two of the three videos that I shot on Sunday were for that upcoming kit... it is small, will be an inexpensive easy-build that flies great. It can fly on one, or three engines.
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I just found this thread, and now I'm kind of wishing I hadn't.

You're trying to keep me from sleeping nights, aren't you?
 
Odo said:
I get the point the SLS is not going to have the saturn V paint scheme!
I knew this before 6 people bombarded me with it on all of my posts related to it :p
Cant a guy have some wishful thinking!? ;)
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Yeah, sure... just makin' sure you know...

along with anybody else reading it... LOL:)

Wish away...

Later! OL JR :)
 
Dr.Zooch said:
Just one of my personal birds, not a new kit.

There is, however, a new kit in the works- so be prepared for a beta next month. Two of the three videos that I shot on Sunday were for that upcoming kit... it is small, will be an inexpensive easy-build that flies great. It can fly on one, or three engines. It will be released with another video. I still have several slo-moes to shoot of it, however.
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Sorry for the bump but...
I was thinking about this and I really think that the Ariane 5 might be the new rocket!
ariane 5.jpeg
It has 3 boosters, and has a relatively straight forward design which could make it easy to build. If the nose cone is balanced correctly I think a model of an Ariane 5 could probably fly without fins using the SRBS as "tube fins" which would allow for 3 engines, 2 in each SRB and one in the center... maybe..
That is my best guess as to what the new rocket might be... Im most likely wrong though, and this is most likely just wishful thinking of wanting an Ariane5 model rocket :p
 
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Odo said:
Sorry for the bump but...
I was thinking about this and I really think that the Ariane 5 might be the new rocket!
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It has 3 boosters, and has a relatively straight forward design which could make it easy to build. If the nose cone is balanced correctly I think a model of an Ariane 5 could probably fly without fins using the SRBS as "tube fins" which would allow for 3 engines, 2 in each SRB and one in the center... maybe..
That is my best guess as to what the new rocket might be... Im most likely wrong though, and this is most likely just wishful thinking of wanting an Ariane5 model rocket :p
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Ariane V is a fairly straightforward build... get your hands on a copy of Peter Alway's "Rockets of the World" (or the appropriate supplement) and it'll have the scale data in it, or do some searching on the web... Basically an Ariane V is a shuttle stack without the shuttle, just slightly different proportions...

BTW, Ariane V doesn't have "3 boosters", it has a pair of solid rocket boosters and a core vehicle powered by a liquid hydrogen/liquid oxygen burning Vulcain engine. The boosters get it off the pad and accelerating, then they burn out and separate and the Vulcain pushes the core on to orbit, or near orbital velocity, where the second stage takes over and completes the orbital insertion (or propels it on toward a geosynchronous transfer orbit, with an apogee at 22,300 miles out in space. The stage performs a second circularization burn at the end of the Hohmann transfer to inject its payload(s) into geosynchronous orbit (GEO).

It's a possibility... many of the parts (except the booster nosecones, and they could probably be modified from standard balsa cones used on the shuttle SRB's) are used on other Zooch kits... but I don't think that an Ariane V is in the running, honestly. BTW, an Ariane V will not fly without flamefins of some type, not without active guidance... using the boosters as "cone fins" won't work because the rocket is asymmetrical in the pitch and yaw axes, meaning that even if you go the CG far enough forward by using extra noseweight, the rocket would only be stable in the pitch axis... it would have no stability in the yaw axis due to it only having 2 SRB's on either side. Besides, it'd be SO heavy it'd perform like a real dog... better to just use flame fins and do it right in the first place...

Someone mentioned the cargo SLS... that's another good possibility. Such a kit would use common parts with the other kits and be a pretty straightforward thing to do.

Course, I'm just whistling in the wind like everybody else... When the Doc (Wes) has something to tell us, you'll hear it here first I'm sure...

Later! OL JR :)
 
luke strawwalker said:
Ariane V is a fairly straightforward build... get your hands on a copy of Peter Alway's "Rockets of the World" (or the appropriate supplement) and it'll have the scale data in it, or do some searching on the web... Basically an Ariane V is a shuttle stack without the shuttle, just slightly different proportions...

BTW, Ariane V doesn't have "3 boosters", it has a pair of solid rocket boosters and a core vehicle powered by a liquid hydrogen/liquid oxygen burning Vulcain engine. The boosters get it off the pad and accelerating, then they burn out and separate and the Vulcain pushes the core on to orbit, or near orbital velocity, where the second stage takes over and completes the orbital insertion (or propels it on toward a geosynchronous transfer orbit, with an apogee at 22,300 miles out in space. The stage performs a second circularization burn at the end of the Hohmann transfer to inject its payload(s) into geosynchronous orbit (GEO).

It's a possibility... many of the parts (except the booster nosecones, and they could probably be modified from standard balsa cones used on the shuttle SRB's) are used on other Zooch kits... but I don't think that an Ariane V is in the running, honestly. BTW, an Ariane V will not fly without flamefins of some type, not without active guidance... using the boosters as "cone fins" won't work because the rocket is asymmetrical in the pitch and yaw axes, meaning that even if you go the CG far enough forward by using extra noseweight, the rocket would only be stable in the pitch axis... it would have no stability in the yaw axis due to it only having 2 SRB's on either side. Besides, it'd be SO heavy it'd perform like a real dog... better to just use flame fins and do it right in the first place...

Someone mentioned the cargo SLS... that's another good possibility. Such a kit would use common parts with the other kits and be a pretty straightforward thing to do.

Course, I'm just whistling in the wind like everybody else... When the Doc (Wes) has something to tell us, you'll hear it here first I'm sure...

Later! OL JR :)
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What I meant by 3 boosters was just 3 engines, I phrased it wrong, I am aware of the liquid fuel core engine and 2 SRBS.
What you're saying about the stabilization makes sense, since it wouldnt be 3x/4x symettrical. Also I was the one who brought up the cargo SLS lol, I had 2 guesses and I guess I struck out twice :p
 
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Odo said:
What I meant by 3 boosters was just 3 engines, I phrased it wrong, I am aware of the liquid fuel core engine and 2 SRBS.
What you're saying about the stabilization makes sense, since it would be 3x/4x symettrical. Also I was the one who brought up the cargo SLS lol, I had 2 guesses and I guess I struck out twice :p
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Personally if I were a betting man I'd say the cargo SLS would be more likely...

I sorta figured that's what you meant, but then again, I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd throw that out there...

Rocketry is a scientific hobby, so you have to be precise in your terminology and descriptions.. :)

later! OL JR :)
 
my guess is a Little Joe rocket with an Apollo capsule on it.

Apollo-_Little_Joe_II_Liftoff_(December_8,_1964)_-_cropped (1).jpg


luke strawwalker said:
Personally if I were a betting man I'd say the cargo SLS would be more likely...

I sorta figured that's what you meant, but then again, I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd throw that out there...

Rocketry is a scientific hobby, so you have to be precise in your terminology and descriptions.. :)

later! OL JR :)
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