My first motor hardware

[Tyler P]

I've decided to start getting some motor hardware in preparation for next season.

My first set is the CTI Pro29 starter set, which is the 3-grain case, rear closure, 2 spacers, and the DAT with appropriate centering ring.

I was looking at the Pro38 starter set also, but it was looking a bit too costly this time around.

I do want to get some Pro24 cases, so I'd like to ask you all which ones you personally use the most in 24mm? I can't decide which to go with first, even though I'll probably end up with 2 or 3 of them anyway.

So which ones do you like and what rockets are you using them in, just for reference to decide which cases I may be able to use with my current and expanding fleet.

 

[NateB]

I picked up the 3 and 6 grain Pro 29 with spacers and DAT and a 1 and 3 grain Pro 38 case from the yard sale for whenever I attempt HPR certification.

For smaller rockets, I use the Aeortech 24/40 and 29/40-120 cases. Those actually get some use since I can fly them in a nearby large park.

As for rockets, I'm getting addicted to the Wildman minis and the smaller kits from Mach 1. I like building with fiberglass much better than cardboard and these all fly well in small fields.

 

[Tyler P]

I'm a big fan of LOC/Precision kits but do want to get into a fiberglass kit at some point. My first FG kit will likely be the Mad Cow 2.6" Black Brant 2. Personally, I do like working with cardboard tubing but I also like the precision look and weight of fiberglass.

Doing a bit more research, the Pro24 single-grain case has reloads for E engines, the 2-grain has an F50 and F70 rebuild, the 3-grain has 6 different reloads from F51 to F240, and the 6-grain has 8 reloads from G65 to G150.

In all honesty, I probably would only want the single-grain for my D and E capable rockets. Everything else I would want a reload for has a 29mm mount or I have a 38mm-29mm adapter for, so I have the case for that. So single-grain Pro24 it will likely be if I go that route.

 

[NateB]

This biggest reason I went with Aerotech for 24mm motors is that most are shipped without Hazmat charges. At this point, I don't buy enough at once to make it worth it. YMMV if you have an active club and launch rockets more than I do.

 

[Tyler P]

This biggest reason I went with Aerotech for 24mm motors is that most are shipped without Hazmat charges. At this point, I don't buy enough at once to make it worth it. YMMV if you have an active club and launch rockets more than I do.

I'm not sure if we get charged Hazmat type stuff in Canada. I've never had a dangerous goods charge or anything on my motors. I don't order cross-border for my motors and CTI is in Canada, so it works out well.

For me, the 24mm isn't about saving money on engines. It's mostly for the fun factor and learning about reloads. I also fly Aerotech SU motors.

 

[Nytrunner]

Most often I fly the Pro24 6grain in my buffed 3" School Rocket. It's good for a couple thousand feet

For your flying, I'd get the 1 and 2 grain casings in Pro24. Good range of motors there

For pro38, 2, 5, and 6xl get you the full range (using spacer of course)

 

[dpower]

The Pro24 1G reloads are costly, but work great for 24mm clusters, when D12 motors aren't quite enough. They light fast enough to be clustered with D12 motors.

 

[dr wogz]

Tyler, I'm pretty sure will well have a HAZMAT fee to pay.. You jsut haven't bought any motors large enough!
Pavel at Allrockets sells AT as well as CTI. Angelo at Sunward sells CTI mainly (or used to).. They all need to go thru a distributor.. (I'm assuming..)

Does this mean we'll see you at CRMRC in the spring?!

 

[Tyler P]

Tyler, I'm pretty sure will well have a HAZMAT fee to pay.. You jsut haven't bought any motors large enough!
Pavel at Allrockets sells AT as well as CTI. Angelo at Sunward sells CTI mainly (or used to).. They all need to go thru a distributor.. (I'm assuming..)

Does this mean we'll see you at CRMRC in the spring?!

Paul, you're probably right. There may be HAZMAT fees on them. The biggest motor I have is my L1 motor. Didn't have to pay anything special on that one, but it's a only 29mm H.

Yes, I'm really hoping to get out there this spring! My year got so busy that I didn't launch anything until last week, just before the snow flew here.

 

[jqavins]

For me, the 24mm isn't about saving money on engines. It's mostly for the fun factor and learning about reloads. I also fly Aerotech SU motors.

For the fun and learning experience, 29 mm reloadables are probably as good as 24s. So you could just stick with SU for the 24s.

This isn't to say that 24 m reloads don't open up new options, which they certainly do, I'm only saying that they are note a great deal of help in what you've stated as your primary motive as compared to 29s.

Not enough opportunity to fly the 29s? Build more rockets!

 

[Dipstick]

My only recommendation...buy another retaining ring so when you lose a case you're not stuck for the day Ask me how I know...

 

[Tyler P]

For the fun and learning experience, 29 mm reloadables are probably as good as 24s. So you could just stick with SU for the 24s.

This isn't to say that 24 m reloads don't open up new options, which they certainly do, I'm only saying that they are note a great deal of help in what you've stated as your primary motive as compared to 29s.

Not enough opportunity to fly the 29s? Build more rockets!

Well, I have the 29 already, haha! I just want more, lol. I have two rockets currently setup that will fly on a 29, and 10 that will do 24s.

And, of course, I'll build more to fit my 29 case! Also a couple more for 38. My one rocket that will fly on a 29 has a 38 mount. I'll probably pull the trigger on the Pro38 set sooner rather than later, just to have it for next season.

 

[Tyler P]

My only recommendation...buy another retaining ring so when you lose a case you're not stuck for the day Ask me how I know...

That's solid advice. I will take and use that for sure!

 

[mbeels]

The 3 grain 29mm motor was a good choice, there are a huge variety of reloads available for that case. Lots of good options.

In 24mm I mostly fly an Aerotech 24/40 case, mainly because of economics. But I also have a Cessaroni 24mm 1 grain and 3 grain case. The 1 grain case is convenient because it fits into my old Estes rockets I built with D engine hooks, and they're also suitable for clustering and air-starting because they light so quickly with an e-match.

 

[markg]

I have Aerotech 18/20, 24/40 and 29/40-120 in small hardware. I fly more 29/40-120 then the other two combined.

18/20 I usually fly in a saucer or sometimes in a 24mm rocket. Obviously a D13/24 in a smaller rocket will be tough to track. I fly the D24 in an Estes Top Shot which is a 1.6" diameter, 37" rocket.

24/40 I sometimes fly in a larger 24mm rocket, like an Estes Eliminator.

Both the 18/20 and 24/40 are small cases that are tougher to clean and assemble than the 29/40-120. The 29/40-120 has a large variety of loads available and does great in all of the Estes PSII rockets. All of those are big enough to fly with a JLCR, which means I'm most likely to get them back!

cheers - mark

 

[Tyler P]

I have Aerotech 18/20, 24/40 and 29/40-120 in small hardware. I fly more 29/40-120 then the other two combined.

18/20 I usually fly in a saucer or sometimes in a 24mm rocket. Obviously a D13/24 in a smaller rocket will be tough to track. I fly the D24 in an Estes Top Shot which is a 1.6" diameter, 37" rocket.

24/40 I sometimes fly in a larger 24mm rocket, like an Estes Eliminator.

Both the 18/20 and 24/40 are small cases that are tougher to clean and assemble than the 29/40-120. The 29/40-120 has a large variety of loads available and does great in all of the Estes PSII rockets. All of those are big enough to fly with a JLCR, which means I'm most likely to get them back!

cheers - mark

I was thinking that Pro24 single-grain would be fun in the Estes Executioner and Saturn V and Little Joe 3. I'd also fly it in my SLV and QCC Explorer in a bigger field with the JLCR.