Generic E2X (maybe Wizards - we’ll see) bulk pack on sale

[SecondRow]

I’m planning a rocket build and launch for my son’s Cub Scout den. I found a 12-pack of the Estes Generic E2X for $42. Cheaper than AC supply. Here’s the link if anyone is currently looking. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009EZPS5O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_8JFGNGTZW16DQBM6PPD9

It’s a decent build for a kid’s first time. It’s not RTF. It uses wood glue, not plastic cement. Minimal use of the hobby knife for cutting the engine hook slit and poking the plastic out of the nose cone. And it allows them some creativity with finishing.

Also, hobby lobby has the bulk 24-pack of A8-3s for $40 on its website.

 

[dhbarr]

Thanks for the tips, refilled my Cub Scout pile.

I find with a streamer this hits the sweet spot for one-day small-field build-and-fly.

 

[jmasterj]

Let's see if they actually send me Generic E2Xs this time. I tried to order this 3 times before and got Wizards every time.

 

[SecondRow]

Let's see if they actually send me Generic E2Xs this time. I tried to order this 3 times before and got Wizards every time.

Thanks for the heads up. Wizards would not be ideal for these kids or the field, but I could make do if necessary. The launch isn’t until April, so I can send these back, also. The pack is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I’ll let you know what I get.

 

[PDawg]

Ordered. Wonder how it will fly with an E-12-6 Estes engine ? That would be fun.

 

[BEC]

I just ordered a box as well, expected delivery tomorrow. I sent out a blast to the Scout leaders on the BEMRC mailing list about the deal, then just sent a second one warning them that Wizards have been received in the past. We shall see what happens, I guess.

Even for Wizards, that's not a bad deal, but for first-timers, Wizards aren't nearly as good a choice.

 

[jmasterj]

You can always return the wizards if that's what you get. BT-20 is just too small for me. My son's generic E2X has been great; I plan on making a couple mongoose clones out of this box.

 

[BEC]

Yeah, that's the plan in my case. I have enough Wizards in stock for my own future use for sure.

 

[SecondRow]

Even for Wizards, that's not a bad deal, but for first-timers, Wizards aren't nearly as good a choice.

Agreed. The more thought I give this, the less I want to deal with Wizards and first time flyers. If Wizards show up, I’ll just return them and order the Generics from AC Supply.

 

[SecondRow]

Ordered. Wonder how it will fly with an E-12-6 Estes engine ? That would be fun.

I wouldn’t recommend it. You’d have to forgo installation of the motor mount, and you’d need a lot of nose weight, otherwise it’s sure to be unstable. The motor weighs almost twice as much as the unloaded rocket.

Of course, if Wizards show up instead, you won’t be able to fly the E at all, since it doesn’t fit.

 

[Grant_Edwards]

Let's see if they actually send me Generic E2Xs this time. I tried to order this 3 times before and got Wizards every time.

I ordered 2 of that item in September, and I got 2 boxes of Wizards also. I returned them and ordered from AC Supply instead.

 

[SecondRow]

Gotta change the thread title now.

 

[jmasterj]

Fingers crossed for the correct item for all of us!

 

[Grant_Edwards]

Ordered. Wonder how it will fly with an E-12-6 Estes engine ? That would be fun.

You'll never get it back.

In October I did a group build/launch of E2X generics with a girl scout troop (along with a few scout siblings and friends). One of the kids really wanted to launch his with a C6-5. I told him there was a pretty good chance it we'd never find it, but he insisted he wanted to anyway. OpenRocket predicted 1200ft on a C6-5. I lost sight of it completely, but after the chute opened the kids spotted it. There was only a light breeze, and some of the kids chased it down about 1/4 mile from the pad. Just a little more breeze and it would have been gone...

 

[jmasterj]

You'll never get it back.

That's why he's buying 12! Might want to use E12-8s at least, though, lol.

 

[SecondRow]

Hey, look what’s in the box!

 

[JonathanOtt]

Hey, look what’s in the box!View attachment 506211

Yea!!!

 

[Grant_Edwards]

I just ordered 2. The $42 price is a steal. They're $130 at Estes and $87 at ACSupply. I'm sure I'll fine somebody to hand them out to...

 

[Grant_Edwards]

In case anybody is interested, last fall I re-wrote the E2X-generic instructions to use in a group build where I had pre-marked and pre-cut the tubes, added a kevlar string around the green adapter ring instead of the tri-fold mount, and prepped a few other things to try to do a single-session build in 1-1/2 hours. The instructions along with a description of the pre-build prep are in this posting:

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threa...s-with-a-girl-scout-troop.168463/post-2195731

In the trial run of the build, I had the kids wrap the kevlar around the adapter ring and tape it. That didn't go well and took forever. For the full-scale build I prepped the adapter ring with the kevlar string already taped on (and an arrow drawn on the ring). The trial run was via Zoom, which made it far worse. In person, maybe wrapping the string around the adapter ring might have been OK. I've attached the instruction page (removed from the final version of the instructions) showing how to wrap the kevlar around the adapter ring.

If I do it again, I might just do kevlar with a tri-fold mount. [Though I also find installing tri-fold mounts to be a high-risk operation for young first time builders].

 

[Grant_Edwards]

NB: If you do a group build like this, I highly recommend having two types of glue. Something like TB-III for use when "sliding part A into part B" and something like TB-quick-and-thick for "sticking part A on the side of part B".

 

[BEC]

Hey, look what’s in the box!View attachment 506211

Cool! Here's hoping I can post a similar picture when mine comes today.

 

[SecondRow]

In case anybody is interested, last fall I re-wrote the E2X-generic instructions to use in a group build where I had pre-marked and pre-cut the tubes, added a kevlar string around the green adapter ring instead of the tri-fold mount, and prepped a few other things to try to do a single-session build in 1-1/2 hours. The instructions along with a description of the pre-build prep are in this posting:

https://www.rocketryforum.com/threa...s-with-a-girl-scout-troop.168463/post-2195731

In the trial run of the build, I had the kids wrap the kevlar around the adapter ring and tape it. That didn't go well and took forever. For the full-scale build I prepped the adapter ring with the kevlar string already taped on (and an arrow drawn on the ring). The trial run was via Zoom, which made it far worse. In person, maybe wrapping the string around the adapter ring might have been OK. I've attached the instruction page (removed from the final version of the instructions) showing how to wrap the kevlar around the adapter ring.

If I do it again, I might just do kevlar with a tri-fold mount. [Though I also find installing tri-fold mounts to be a high-risk operation for young first time builders].

Thanks for the link. It’s going to be about 7 or 8 fourth grade boys. We’ll probably have an hour to build and it will be outside, so I’ll have to prepare some parts. They’ve all got their whittling chip, but I think I’m going to pre-cut the slit for the hooks and pop out the nose cone plastic, so there’s no need for a knife. Putting the snap swivels on the chutes is a great idea. I don’t want them getting frustrated trying to get the chute lines correct when our time will be limited. I think I’ll also cut the shock cord mount out. I don’t have a problem with the tri-fold mount and elastic cord.

I‘m going to let them finish their rocket at home. Do you mind if I use the last page of your instructions? The one that shows them where to paint and where not to paint?

 

[cwbullet]

I ended up buying one also. Under 42 is a steal. This might be a good one to upscale!

Generic E2X - Under 42 - get the, while you can guys.

 

[Grant_Edwards]

I‘m going to let them finish their rocket at home. Do you mind if I use the last page of your instructions? The one that shows them where to paint and where not to paint?

Certainly. You (or anybody else) are more than welcome to use any/all of the instructions I wrote up. The originals are mostly LibreOffice .odg drawing files. If anybody wants to make any modifications, let me know and I'll make the .odg files available.

 

[CalebJ]

I ended up buying one also. Under 42 is a steal. This might be a good one to upscale!

Generic E2X - Under 42 - get the, while you can guys.

Aaahhhhh!

I held out as long as I could, but you finally nudged me over the edge. Twelve pack ordered.

 

[ZoomieG]

Mine just got dropped off. It is indeed a dozen Generics!

Not sure if Bill Cooke is on this forum, but he made a post on his blog a while back on kitbashing Generics. Turns out there are quite a few rockets that can be replicated, many with just a nose cone swap (and paint/decals, of course).

https://billsrockets.blogspot.com/2020/07/what-can-you-do-with-estes-generic-fin.html

 

[kuririn]

I hate you guys.
I have a Generic, but had absolutely no desire to pick up a bulk pack.
Until I saw Bill Cooke's blog post linked above.
You guys are killing me.

 

[JC Hobbies]

With all the rockets in my build pile, I need these like I need another hole in my head.

*Click*

Hmm, I guess I DO need another hole in my head.

 

[PDawg]

Hey , look what showed up in my Box! Unreal. I almost never use Amazon, but when I do I get reminded why. I didn't need 12 more rockets anyway.

 

[jmasterj]

4th time's the charm for me: