Wanted Estes Phoenix (1380) Scans/Info

[K'Tesh]

I'm working on stock sims for the Estes Phoenix (1380), and I'm aware of two confirmed versions, and a possible third.

Version one has waterslide decals and no clay for the nosecone.


Version two has waterslide decals and clay for the nosecone (the thing that makes me sure that this is the 2nd version is the instructions for applying the decals).


The unconfirmed version has self-adhesive decals.

JimZ's site has versions 1 and 2's instructions, John Brohm's body tube guide mentions the self-adhesive decals and heavy walled body tube for the motor, which doesn't match up with the 2nd version of JimZ's files.

I'm looking for any/all info on the versions of this kit, especially the later versions (instructions don't give lengths of parts or part numbers). Scans of the flat parts (fins, decals) (with a ruler for scale) are very appreciated.

Thanks!
Jim

 

[DeltaVee]

The Estes Phoenix I have had waterside and clay. I saw someone's attempt to fly a very nicely finished Phoenix w/o clay in the nose and the outcome wasn't so good.

 

[Art Upton]

Mine is the first version and needs clay in the nose. It's first flight was an E-15

 

[K'Tesh]

I'm especially interested in fresh scans of the fins and decals. JimZ's scans are old and/or have been doctored.

 

[Rocketteer]

i sent them to jim also
ollie-oop

 

[Arsenal78]

The Estes Phoenix I have had waterside and clay. I saw someone's attempt to fly a very nicely finished Phoenix w/o clay in the nose and the outcome wasn't so good.

I had the little Madcow 2.2" Phoenix a few years back and I tried flying it with the stock balsa nose... didn't end well at all. I guess Estes was quick to fix that issue with the clay added to the kits.

 

[K'Tesh]

i sent them to jim also
ollie-oop

Ah... Thanks for those! I'm working on the file right now, and the unscaled image from JimZ's site wasn't cutting it for me.

 

[dakota196]

Mine is the first version and needs clay in the nose. It's first flight was an E-15

I have version 1 with no clay in the nose, have flown many times way back when with absolutely no flight issues! D motors.

 

[Rocketteer]

I currently offer laser cut fins for the Phoenix. I will be offering complete kits asap also.

 

[OldGuy1967]

I currently offer laser cut fins for the Phoenix. I will be offering complete kits asap also.

I will be wanting one of those to replace my version one that got destroyed many years ago. Still have my Estes Sentinel still from same time period.