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.........then I would expect AT motors to go up too at some point.
They have, 3 or 4 times last year.
.........then I would expect AT motors to go up too at some point.
Did the hardware go up or just the propellent? If it's only the propellent then the price increase is probably related to cost of materials. And if that's the case, then I would expect AT motors to go up too at some point.
Comparing aerotech, cti and other hobby rocketry manufacturers to large corporations that consistently exploit the political climate to rake in record profits is really wrong. Do you think that hobby rocketry manufacturers are raking in the big bucks and exploiting you? Aerotech and CTI employees need to pay rent and eat too, right? The increase of the average motor is far below inflation levels. The price of motors arent up, our wages are down while mega corporations rake in record profits. Dont put aerotech and CTI in the same boat as Amazon and Walmart.
Try thinking through that again, as well as looking up what the non-SpaceX companies are planning to use to get their constellations launched.
SpaceX does not operate a non-reusable system and only very occasionally deliberately expend a first stage when the requirements of a particular launch preclude saving propellant for a landing. However, there is currently no way to recover the upper stage, so that is expended with every flight.I am sure you know more about commercial rocket tech than I do.
I admit, I am not sure, or care too much, if Space-X is using their re-usable systems for LEO launches of their satellite constellation. It would seem like that would be an exorbitantly expensive way to put satellites into LEO, but maybe it isn't. I saw an interview sometime back (no link, can't remember where I saw it) where Elon Musk was asked about Starlink and the cost of launches and he said the use of liquid fuel is not sustainable (cost and complexity way too high per launch to sustain the number of launches they need for Starlink). So, no clue on my part what Space-X has in the queue for the future. Maybe they are planning to use dilithium crystals, for all I know.
Did the hardware go up or just the propellent? If it's only the propellent then the price increase is probably related to cost of materials. And if that's the case, then I would expect AT motors to go up too at some point.
From the Merriam-Webster dictionary,0) this is not rocketry related
1) irregardless is not a word
2) without a profit everyone is unemployed. So who will buy the products? You think people invest in companies to LOSE money?
SpaceX does not operate a non-reusable system and only very occasionally deliberately expend a first stage when the requirements of a particular launch preclude saving propellant for a landing. However, there is currently no way to recover the upper stage, so that is expended with every flight.
Regardless, SpaceX's launch services are far cheaper than any of their competition. I am genuinely shocked that anyone would think using a reusable rocket would be "exorbitantly expensive."
SpaceX is getting as many Starlink satellites as they can launched using Falcon 9, but they are banking on the in-development, fully reusable Starship system to be able to eventually launch many more Starlinks at once while expending no hardware.
The problem is, hobby dollars are getting hard to come by. With out of control inflation across the board, a lot of us are getting to the point where we have to start trimming the budget just to put food on the table. So if the *insert your favorite hobby here* companies keep raising their prices, they will force us to stop buying. Then where do their profit margins go? How many of these places can afford to lose even half of their customer base?0) this is not rocketry related
1) irregardless is not a word
2) without a profit everyone is unemployed. So who will buy the products? You think people invest in companies to LOSE money?
The problem is, hobby dollars are getting hard to come by. With out of control inflation across the board, a lot of us are getting to the point where we have to start trimming the budget just to put food on the table. So if the *insert your favorite hobby here* companies keep raising their prices, they will force us to stop buying. Then where do their profit margins go? How many of these places can afford to lose even half of their customer base?
I haven't bought any hpr motors for a while now, maybe over a year, I'd have to check. We're at the price point now, that I might be done with hpr when my current stock is depleted.
3D grain printing is something I want to try. I have burned ABS, but it's reportedly a pain to print. I suppose PLA would burn.Time to invest in more hybrids And 3D print ABS fuel grains. Nitrous right now is $7 a pound.
Its not pain for simple shapes like a fuel grain.3D grain printing is something I want to try. I have burned ABS, but it's reportedly a pain to print. I suppose PLA would burn.
PLA burns well3D grain printing is something I want to try. I have burned ABS, but it's reportedly a pain to print. I suppose PLA would burn.
Plus you can do cool things like print a fine mesh in the grain and fill it with wax or an htpb mixture.PLA burns well
The problem is, hobby dollars are getting hard to come by. With out of control inflation across the board, a lot of us are getting to the point where we have to start trimming the budget just to put food on the table. So if the *insert your favorite hobby here* companies keep raising their prices, they will force us to stop buying. Then where do their profit margins go? How many of these places can afford to lose even half of their customer base?
I haven't bought any hpr motors for a while now, maybe over a year, I'd have to check. We're at the price point now, that I might be done with hpr when my current stock is depleted.
That's what I do... vacuum impregnate the grain with wax and print threads and screw them together to make longer grainsPlus you can do cool things like print a fine mesh in the grain and fill it with wax or an htpb mixture.
Even the smaller composite motors are approaching the " I can't afford... " price point.Could always change to rockets that use smaller motors.
I, too, are contemplating "going to the dark side" (AT) as currently there are zero CTI (my usual 'go to' motor choice) vendors (with stock) over here in Oz.This whole discussion is helping me decide which way I go as I get into 54 and 75 reloads. I started with CTI 38 starter set (3G case, 6G case, DAT & 2 spacers), purchasing at the end of 2019 for $109.95. Although it took a month and a half to get, it was the economical choice at the time. As I now have quite a few FG kits in my build pile, 4 of them with 54 motor mounts, I think I'll switch over to AT.
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