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Having purchased some ghetto test gear for EX, I can see how expensive in both time and money a full cert operation would be. That said, do NAR and TRA work in concert or do they both have their own program? Just wondering if TRA could cert those....
Aerotech is likely at least as frustrated as we are, and I imagine NAR would like to get it done as well.
Thanks! I called Wildman today and got the same statement. Really, really hoping these get in soon for the TARC teams...
Charlie/AT,
I've started flying more 75mm AT reloads. Forgive me if this question has been discussed already, but has Aerotech opted to use the seal disk and single-throat nozzle for all 75mm reloads?
The L850 did not indicate that a seal disk was needed in the instructions, but IIRC, there was no fwd insulating disk included in the reload.
Also, the L850 and L1170 instruction sets indicate a medusa nozzle, but I believe the reloads included a single-throat version.
Thanks!
Erik
Is it too hard to ask for an I225FJ with a 14s delay grain option? Why do some motors only have one delay option?
We've seen this topic in this very thread before. Can we get a definitive answer? I've been waiting a year for more 24/60 reloads.
If the problem is NAR, I will vote with my pocketbook and not renew my NAR membership.
Ordered a bunch of reloads, getting an M1850, backordered were M1315, M1780 and M1297 among countless other smaller stuff including some hardware that other folks are not getting either.
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Thank you for your post. That's information I did not have.
We have been working with them and did get some motors actually tested and certified last week! The F67W-4, 6, 9 (2-pak economax) and the F51NT-10 (2-pak for the 24/60 hardware) was also certified. We are awaiting the results of the final 2 24/60 loads and then NAR S&T will be ready for more submissions.
We have some movement on the certification front:
Economax:
F67W-4
F67W-6
F67W-9
I'll post the official announcement shortly. Thank you for your patience, these are really fun motors.
Thank you for the feedback Nate. I believe many of the questions regarding JetHitch and the website have been addressed elsewhere in this thread but please PM me if I can answer anything that I may have missed.
I almost left immediately after seeing that the "products" tab brings me to a five year old catalog
This will be remedied by the end of next week. This particular issue is extremely frustrating and there should always be a current and up to date catalog moving forward. The improved website will be focused on providing the most popular information first.
Something else I'd like to bring up is Aerotech's lack of a coherent direction. You guys are putting out a new DMS line here, a switch to EZ there, a few new DMS motors over here, etc.
Our customers all have their preferred lines or motors. It is extremely challenging to meet everyone's individual demands but we still try to. In our view, many of the flyers wanted something easier (EZ) so we are converting the 38mm RMS line to EZs. It isn't just for that purpose though. We are working on something that will better explain it but I am sworn to secrecy at this particular time.
I like doing it, and I like knowing that if something goes wrong because an O-ring was missing, I left it out, and I had the power not to leave it out- it's something I have control over
That is way responsible for a 16-year old, good for you. Reloads are our bread and butter so they aren't going anywhere. As for the DMS line, we just submitted the last 2 motors for testing so that line is set for a bit. Great feedback, thank you.
Are these 24mm or 29mm? Sound like fun motors!
We have some movement on the certification front:
24/60:
F51NT-10
Economax:
F67W-4
F67W-6
F67W-9
I'll post the official announcement shortly. Thank you for your patience, these are really fun motors.
Charlie can you tell us the 2 DMS on there way to TMT? I really like the AT DMS line of motors.
I think you just replied to a 2.5 year old post.
Woo, a 24/60 load! Any update on the 40-120 Red & DM? ^_^We have some movement on the certification front:
24/60:
F51NT-10
Economax:
F67W-4
F67W-6
F67W-9
I'll post the official announcement shortly. Thank you for your patience, these are really fun motors.
40-120 Red & DAM?
We have some movement on the certification front:
24/60:
F51NT-10
Economax:
F67W-4
F67W-6
F67W-9
I'll post the official announcement shortly. Thank you for your patience, these are really fun motors.
We have some movement on the certification front:
24/60:
F51NT-10
Economax:
F67W-4
F67W-6
F67W-9
I'll post the official announcement shortly. Thank you for your patience, these are really fun motors.
I see the F67 for sale on buyrocketmotors.com... but nowhere else I've looked so far have I found any info. What are the Isp's of these guys? It's not shown in the brm.com entry
F67 is 29mm
I am interested in all of the 24/60 reloads.
And i suspect that many, many TARC teams will also be interested.
If you have not flown the 24/60 F35 or been present when one is flown, you are seriously missing out. They are awesome.
CTI P24-6G G150?There were some other high school groups seriously pushing MPR designs. It seems these TARC groups are dying for a potent MPR motors and way more reload options to handle the heavier payloads and larger MPR designs. I observed several larger MPRs with actual payloads trying to hit an altitude goal and the old Estes E motor isn't cutting the standard either. Observed a group at VAST and I was extremely impressed with their egg launches and recovery in marginal weather.
SEDS a national HPR entry rocketry competition among colleges would also be extremely interested in smaller 24mm diameter motors for HPR work if it would be possible to get a real serious H load or even some very stout MPR G loads starting at 24/120 and working to longer casings (6 grain) if someday possible. SEDS competition is vague enough where teams can select any motor combinations up to a full I class at 640Ns. There is a smaller market in MPR motor reloads for the three stage or even four stage designs. They encourage additional staging, but most teams find beyond two or three truly cumbersome. It heavily awards altitude bonus beyond a target altitude per 200ft extra you start racking points per 200ft. SEDs teams were pushing designs of 20,000ft-25,000ft on L-1 impulse levels. SEDS needs a 24mm HPR motor... 88 teams competed this year and the only way for more alt is diameter reductions with more burn times and more thrust. Right now it's kinda stuck at 29mm and 38mm MD designs... To go further we need 24mm H class staged to I class 29mm diameter options or 24-24-24-24 mm G-G-G-H class stages. The electronics are vastly decreasing in size and increasing in capabilities yet no motors exist.
The airframe drag force and build costs drastically decline with diameter reductions too. So yeah I'll push that 24mm market... TARC ain't the only group dying for 24mm loads. The typical SEDS budget for college teams is about $2-3K for the low-ballers.
CTIP24-6GG150?
Isn't mentioning a competitors motor in Aerotech's thread kind of bad form? My opinion of course.CTI P24-6G G150?
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