I don't think there is a communication problem...I think there is a lack of hobby shop placing orders. It's not that difficult to find aerotech if they really wanted to keep the product line. Most stores I used to by from dropped the line because they don't want to to pay shipping on the productsA number of nearby hobby shops here in the northeast *used* to stock Aerotech kits/motors etc. along with the usual stuff by other "esteemed" competitors... but none have any Aerotech product now. When asked, I got the reponse "Aerotech? Oh they're out of business". It's as if you guys dropped entirely off the map after your big fire some time ago. (I'm not 100% up on the history as I've only come back to rocketry in the past few months). The on-line vendors have stuff in stock so I'm "pretty sure" AT is still in business! That said, I can't get an F motor without expending an extra $32 unless I can get it from a vendor that shows up at a launch and half the time they don't have the right delay or motor to begin with. So with a $10+ dollar shipping charge I'm at the price of two g-motors before I order any at all! When I lived in Salt Lake I could get stuff at the local shops... in New England, the stores are scattered about and, well, if they think you're out of business... they sure as heck are not going to order anything, are they? There are precious few brick-and-mortar places in the northeast that carry your stuff and most of the time they're out of stock... or an hour and a half drive (I know y'all in the "big" states out west are laughing now but an hour and a half in traffic is a lot less fun than a 100 mile drive out your way). To make a long-winded rant much shorter... I think AT has a bit of a "communication" problem.
I don't think there is a communication problem...I think there is a lack of hobby shop placing orders. It's not that difficult to find aerotech if they really wanted to keep the product line. Most stores I used to by from dropped the line because they don't want to to pay shipping on the products
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If anywhere near me had a LHS, I'd download a .PDF, highlight what I want, and have a chat with the owner about stocking them. This would be likely to work only if I was there frequently.Oh I get not wanting to pay shipping! I'd sure rather not have to, but so it goes... And you may be right, but I can say I personally have been involved with three shops now that seem to think AT is out of business. I was talking to the owner of a shop today and distributors aren't showing up to trade shows, if they do show up, they don't bring product or catalogs. This guy told me that he could only get ONE catalog from another company (not AT). Last year the distributor promised to bring materials/kits etc and when he got there, he was told "I forgot". He called the same person this year and when the next show occured was told: "Didn't bring anything..." Not how I'd run a business... and I'm no biz wiz. I suppose it's the way of the world today and all... and I'm not blaming Aerotech, but it seems the distributors are the ones dropping the ball here. If *I* ran AT I'd want to know why anyone would think I was OOB.
A number of nearby hobby shops here in the northeast *used* to stock Aerotech kits/motors etc. along with the usual stuff by other "esteemed" competitors... but none have any Aerotech product now. When asked, I got the reponse "Aerotech? Oh they're out of business". It's as if you guys dropped entirely off the map after your big fire some time ago. (I'm not 100% up on the history as I've only come back to rocketry in the past few months). The on-line vendors have stuff in stock so I'm "pretty sure" AT is still in business! That said, I can't get an F motor without expending an extra $32 unless I can get it from a vendor that shows up at a launch and half the time they don't have the right delay or motor to begin with. So with a $10+ dollar shipping charge I'm at the price of two g-motors before I order any at all! When I lived in Salt Lake I could get stuff at the local shops... in New England, the stores are scattered about and, well, if they think you're out of business... they sure as heck are not going to order anything, are they? There are precious few brick-and-mortar places in the northeast that carry your stuff and most of the time they're out of stock... or an hour and a half drive (I know y'all in the "big" states out west are laughing now but an hour and a half in traffic is a lot less fun than a 100 mile drive out your way). To make a long-winded rant much shorter... I think AT has a bit of a "communication" problem.
If anywhere near me had a LHS, I'd download a .PDF, highlight what I want, and have a chat with the owner about stocking them. This would be likely to work only if I was there frequently.
Many vendors appear to be out of stock if the 29mm 40-120 Hobby Line casings. I have had mine on back order for nearly two months now from a vender. Any idea when these cases will be available again? Or insights to what is going on for the supply issue?
Thanks
A number of nearby hobby shops here in the northeast *used* to stock Aerotech kits/motors etc. along with the usual stuff by other "esteemed" competitors... but none have any Aerotech product now. When asked, I got the reponse "Aerotech? Oh they're out of business". It's as if you guys dropped entirely off the map after your big fire some time ago. (I'm not 100% up on the history as I've only come back to rocketry in the past few months). The on-line vendors have stuff in stock so I'm "pretty sure" AT is still in business! That said, I can't get an F motor without expending an extra $32 unless I can get it from a vendor that shows up at a launch and half the time they don't have the right delay or motor to begin with. So with a $10+ dollar shipping charge I'm at the price of two g-motors before I order any at all! When I lived in Salt Lake I could get stuff at the local shops... in New England, the stores are scattered about and, well, if they think you're out of business... they sure as heck are not going to order anything, are they? There are precious few brick-and-mortar places in the northeast that carry your stuff and most of the time they're out of stock... or an hour and a half drive (I know y'all in the "big" states out west are laughing now but an hour and a half in traffic is a lot less fun than a 100 mile drive out your way). To make a long-winded rant much shorter... I think AT has a bit of a "communication" problem.
Are you going to move the MoonBurner discussion over here from the AirFest thread ?
Kenny
Yes. Let's begin.
I have flown the I59W and the H45W a few times , very cool .
Are the new products coming all going to be DMS ? I am overdue to try a I65W ..mainly because I haven't built anything for it.
Also rumored is that the Medusa nozzles in the RMS line were going to be updated with a single throat version ..is that for TailCone closure compatibility ?
Kenny
Hey Charlie,
I just downloaded the instructions for the M685W-P and the second page is very blurry. I tried using Chrome and Acrobat and it's the same in both readers.
Chris
I have flown the I59W and the H45W a few times , very cool .
Are the new products coming all going to be DMS ? I am overdue to try a I65W ..mainly because I haven't built anything for it.
Also rumored is that the Medusa nozzles in the RMS line were going to be updated with a single throat version ..is that for TailCone closure compatibility ?
Kenny
What is this new Warp 9 load I am hearing about? An L4199n in 98mm???? Do you have any info you can put out? Thrust curves would be nice to see......
[video]https://youtu.be/hgU93Py52V8[/video]
Well we are going to attempt to put it in the air this weekend up at Black Rock, if I can upload a photo here I will post the curve for you but for whatever reason it is giving me problems right now. Here is some video:
https://youtu.be/hgU93Py52V8
Hey Charlie,
I just downloaded the instructions for the M685W-P and the second page is very blurry. I tried using Chrome and Acrobat and it's the same in both readers.
Chris
Is that the same motor Nik B. Was trying to fly at Air Fest last Weekend>?
In reference to the F22 Delays from ATs site apparently one delay is a slow burn Formula see attached.
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