alternative way to do this propellant?

[gilo]

Am betting on a formulation which is [...deleted...]. The problem is that it is highly aggressive and 3 preparations, 2 have just in auto ignition combustion ... I would like to use this formulation. Someone knows any way I can do it other than undoing the sugar ..? Thus I have become afraid

 

[rbelknap]

You'd probably get a better (more helpful) response to this thread if it were in the Restricted Research sub forum.

 

[Area66]

Where are you from? ( his English is worst than mine ....... )

 

[gilo]

Am betting on a formulation which is [...deleted...]. The problem is that it is highly aggressive and 3 preparations, 2 have just in auto ignition combustion ... I would like to use this formulation. Someone knows any way I can do it other than undoing the sugar ..? Thus I have become afraid

 

[rms]

Propellant formulations can't be discussed in the open forum. Only in the research area that must be joined separately. This as per forum rule #6
"6. Research Rocketry (making your own motors, igniters, etc) is a special topic, the specific details of which are not to be discussed except in any area specifically designated for such topics. This includes propellant and igniter compositions, specific product recommendations, and techniques for processing propellant. Posts on the topic of Research Rocketry containing information not widely available in published materials are limited to the access controlled area."

Thre are also requirements that must be met to gain access to the research section.

 

[gilo]

Am betting on a formulation which is [...deleted...]. The problem is that it is highly aggressive and 3 preparations, 2 have just in auto ignition combustion ... I would like to use this formulation. Someone knows any way I can do it other than undoing the sugar ..? Thus I have become afraid

 

[gilo]

Where are you from? ( his English is worst than mine ....... )

Sorry, i'm catalan..

 

[jd2cylman]

Where are you from? ( his English is worst than mine ....... )

oint: :lol: oint:
Wow. Catalonia looks like a beautiful place. Welcome to TRF. And please read the FAQ's (frequently asked questions). We're a might touchy about do it yourself motor makers.

Adrian

 

[tmacklin]

If all else fails, you can always try K9P. Good luck.

 

[Cyril's Scribe]

As this is discussing propellant formulation it is best discussed not the Research sub-forum, however you do have to meet a few requirements:

1) NAR or TRA senior member
2) US Citizen
3) High Power Certification (Level 1, 2 or 3)

We would be more than happy to have you discuss this issue there. Thanks!

 

[Area66]

Sorry, i'm catalan..

oh I see, the north of Spain, it's the place where they throw home made rocket to the police ? Let me guess; sugar made rocket....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ttack-police-homemade-rockets-slingshots.html

 

[Target]

Am betting on a formulation which is [...deleted...]. The problem is that it is highly aggressive and 3 preparations, 2 have just in auto ignition combustion ... I would like to use this formulation. Someone knows any way I can do it other than undoing the sugar ..? Thus I have become afraid

Be careful with potassium and aluminum in a mixture. Talk to the mods about admission to the research area. Too many young poeple could read and try making propellents other.

 

[Reinhard]

There has to be some TRF equivalent of Godwin's Law. If a newbie asks questions related to building motors it takes on average less than 10 posts until he is suspected of being a terrorist or something similar.

Regarding the original question: We are not eligible to join the research section and we can't discuss this question outside of it, so TRF is not the right place to continue this discussion. Google for Richard Nakka's homepage and study the different related propellants. You can learn a lot there. He also addresses things like processing safety. Take care.

Reinhard

 

[blackbrandt]

snip- Too many young people could read and try making propellants.

Nobody in particular?

 

[r1dermon]

Afraid and energetic mixtures dont mix well. Id take a step away from the table and brush up on some research before attempting to trailblaze a new formula for rocket fuel.

 

[bobkrech]

Am betting on a formulation which is [...deleted...]. The problem is that it is highly aggressive and 3 preparations, 2 have just in auto ignition combustion ... I would like to use this formulation. Someone knows any way I can do it other than undoing the sugar ..? Thus I have become afraid

Stop what you are doing right now!

You should be afraid because you don't know what you don't know and if you continue to try to formulate propellants without having a clue about reaction stoichiometry, explosive mixtures and auto-ignition conditions you will hurt or kill yourself.

This is a topic for the Research Forum for which you do not qualify. Without going into details, which I can not and will not do in the Propulsion Forum, I will tell you that I know you can not use your formulation and safely melt those 3 chemicals together. Go to Richard Nakka's Experimental Rocketry Website to find out what you don't know before you try anymore dangerous experiments.

Bob Krech, Moderator

 

[Area66]

auto-ignition conditions

I tough the name was "spontaneous combustion"

 

[r1dermon]

Be careful with potassium and aluminum in a mixture. Talk to the mods about admission to the research area. Too many young poeple could read and try making propellents other.

Id be a lot more cautious about nitrates and Al. There are ways to mitigate the risk, and the two are often used together in pyrotechnics, however, without knowing how, and more importantly why, to mitigate that risk, its a plain old really bad idea to mix those two "ingredients"...especially if you value all 10 digits.

There are forums where this sort of discussion is encouraged, but without meeting certification criteria, this forum is probably not going to entertain this topic. Good luck to the OP though. Hopefully you dont end up having an accident.

 

[bobkrech]

I tough the name was "spontaneous combustion"

No, it's properly called auto-ignition, because it occurs at the auto-ignition temperature.

 

[bobkrech]

Id be a lot more cautious about nitrates and Al. There are ways to mitigate the risk, and the two are often used together in pyrotechnics, however, without knowing how, and more importantly why, to mitigate that risk, its a plain old really bad idea to mix those two "ingredients"...especially if you value all 10 digits.

There are forums where this sort of discussion is encouraged, but without meeting certification criteria, this forum is probably not going to entertain this topic. Good luck to the OP though. Hopefully you dont end up having an accident.

No, the only way to mitigate the risk with that formulation is not to use it.

Bob