Caring for your Wildman 5" Jart

[UPscaler]

Hello everyone...congratulations on your purchase of the Wildman Rocketry 5" Jart. There are a few tips and tricks to maintain a happy Jart, and the first and foremost is to remember that assembly IS required.

Now, let's get started, shall we?

Your Jart will arrive in a package, similar to this one:


If you opted for the feeding pack, you will receive the silver food delivery tube:


Your Jart will likely be very dusty and cold, so a warm bath is a necessity:


Now keep in mind, it is absolutely inevitable that your Jart will come with parts that will not fit together even slightly. You'll want some heavy sandpaper...or perhaps a few rocks glued to some cardboard..

Once you have your pieces in a fitting type manor (This could take a few hours, so be sure to be patient!) You should write on your Jart to mark what parts fit where:


As you can see, NOTHING fits together, so you've got to rub your elbows together and eat grease, or something like that:



Stay tuned for more!



Braden

 

[Pantherjon]

Comic relief!op: Cool!:cool2:

I got his baby brother!

 

[Hardline]

Subscribed. Great Stuff. Anticipating your next post...... op:

 

[cbrarick]

Did you buy it some L935's to feed it?

 

[troj]

If you opted for the feeding pack, you will receive the silver food delivery tube:
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My son got me one, but he opted for the silver hat, instead of the silver food delivery tube.

-Kevin

 

[bandman444]

My son got me one, but he opted for the silver hat, instead of the silver food delivery tube.

-Kevin

Good point. Where is the nose tip?

 

[blackjack2564]

Good point. Where is the nose tip?

Jart got hungry....tired of waiting to be fed.......& ate it!

 

[atxcple]

Jart got hungry....tired of waiting to be fed.......& ate it!

:rofl:

 

[troj]

Hey, Braden?

Jarts Anonymous just called, and said they've heard reports of yours being neglected.

You'd better rectify the situation soon, or it might be confiscated....

-Kevin

 

[Buckeye]

Now keep in mind, it is absolutely inevitable that your Jart will come with parts that will not fit together even slightly. You'll want some heavy sandpaper...or perhaps a few rocks glued to some cardboard..

Braden

I have seen this observation in many fiberglass builds, but also many claims that the parts fit like a dream. From another thread, I also learned that all these fiberglass components essentially come from one source. So, what gives? Why the poor tolerancing and variation? I have yet to work with a fiberglass kit, mainly for this reason. If I drop major coin on a kit, I expect the parts to fit together.

 

[mannyskid]

Hey, Braden?

Jarts Anonymous just called, and said they've heard reports of yours being neglected.

You'd better rectify the situation soon, or it might be confiscated....

-Kevin

If anyone's Jart is being abused, it would have to be mine. At least its going to be well fed....

 

[troj]

I have seen this observation in many fiberglass builds, but also many claims that the parts fit like a dream. From another thread, I also learned that all these fiberglass components essentially come from one source. So, what gives? Why the poor tolerancing and variation? I have yet to work with a fiberglass kit, mainly for this reason. If I drop major coin on a kit, I expect the parts to fit together.

I think you'll find Braden was being sarcastic.

The reality is that there's variation in the parts from all manufacturers, of all kit types. I'd rather have a part that's just a smidge snug, and that I have to sand on a bit than one that's sloppy and loose.

Wood, cardboard, fiberglass -- I've had to sand them all, from modrocs up through HPR. It's just part of the build process.

-Kevin

 

[troj]

If anyone's Jart is being abused, it would have to be mine. At least its going to be well fed....

Manny, you're making the rocket equivalent of pate de foie gras!

-Kevin

 

[Buckeye]

I think you'll find Braden was being sarcastic.

The reality is that there's variation in the parts from all manufacturers, of all kit types. I'd rather have a part that's just a smidge snug, and that I have to sand on a bit than one that's sloppy and loose.

Wood, cardboard, fiberglass -- I've had to sand them all, from modrocs up through HPR. It's just part of the build process.

-Kevin

I have been lucky with cardboard - no major rework needed. I rarely see comments on fit of cardboard or phenolic, but lots of discussion on the newer materials like blue tube and fiberglass. Are there fundamental issues here, or these processes are just not yet mature?

 

[mannyskid]

Manny, you're making the rocket equivalent of pate de foie gras!

-Kevin

So my rocket is a goose?

 

[The Rocket Kid]

So my rocket is a goose?

actually I think it would be a duck

 

[jd2cylman]

actually I think it would be a duck

No. That's what we will be doing when Tim pushes the button. :wink: :tongue:

Adrian

 

[blackbrandt]

:rofl:

 

[crossfire]

Adrian
Its kind of like the old game duck/duck goose. Have fun Manny
Gary

 

[The Rocket Kid]

No. That's what we will be doing when Tim pushes the button. :wink: :tongue:

Adrian

:rofl::lol::bangpan:

 

[troj]

So my rocket is a goose?

No, you're just force-feeding it more than its poor gullet is meant to handle.

(That's how pate de foie gras is made -- force-feeding geese, to produce very fatty livers)

-Kevin

 

[troj]

I have been lucky with cardboard - no major rework needed. I rarely see comments on fit of cardboard or phenolic, but lots of discussion on the newer materials like blue tube and fiberglass. Are there fundamental issues here, or these processes are just not yet mature?

In my experience (Wildman, LOC, MadCow, Giant Leap, PML, Estes, Apogee, FlisKits, SquirrelWorks, Semroc, Quest, who knows what else), adjusting fit is part of the process. I've had some slip right together beautifully, some that required sanding. That includes paper rings into paper tubes, fiberglass rings into fiberglass tubes, and everything in between.

The hardest to sand, to be honest, are thick plywood rings.

-Kevin

 

[UPscaler]

Don't worry! I'm not neglecting it! It's just camera shy...

I removed the 'hat' so the nosecone wouldn't fill with water, and because a minor adjustment is being made to the system that holds the hat in place.

Regarding the parts not fitting so well. It varies from kit to kit. This is one of the worst I've had, but it's probably just karma because our Ultimate Darkstar's pieces went together like a dream.


Braden

 

[maxvelocity]

I'm starting to wonder about all the guys that cry about parts not fitting this isn't perfect that's not perfect last time I checked this was a hobby so shouldn't you want to spend a little time working on the stuff? These aren't luxury cars...

 

[JordanT]

I'm starting to wonder about all the guys that cry about parts not fitting this isn't perfect that's not perfect last time I checked this was a hobby so shouldn't you want to spend a little time working on the stuff? These aren't luxury cars...

On the contrary - this is flight hardware. It should be dead on, after accounting for thermal variations and whatever processes are used for fabrication. ANSI Y14.5 all the way, baby. If I wanted stuff to not fit the first time, I'd build it myself! :wink:

 

[crossfire]

I would guess a lot of you guys never seen a Dynacom kit. All Eric's parts fit perfect or they never left his shop. You shouldn't have to sand all the gel coat form a nose cone shoulder for it to fit in a tube. Someone said to me you should have just sanded the inside of the tube. No it should fit when I get the kit.
GP

 

[CarVac]

I'm starting to wonder about all the guys that cry about parts not fitting this isn't perfect that's not perfect last time I checked this was a hobby so shouldn't you want to spend a little time working on the stuff? These aren't luxury cars...

I thought that FWFG was the luxury stuff in the hobby...

 

[crossfire]

The FWFG is by far better than the old style. I have not had problem with the FWFG products.
GP

 

[maxvelocity]

I don't think I've ever had anything that just fit. I always sand nose cone shoulders, add super glue to couplers for fit, sand centering rings and bulkplates and either thin fins or open slots. I have never wanted to complain about it I just figure it's a hobby you should spend some time working with it. Everyone wants the cheapest parts and kits but also wants the finest components. I don't think those go together. At the end of the day a little bit of work on some parts is a lot easier than making or glassing tubes and making nosecones.

 

[dixontj93060]

I don't think I've ever had anything that just fit. I always sand nose cone shoulders, add super glue to couplers for fit, sand centering rings and bulkplates and either thin fins or open slots. I have never wanted to complain about it I just figure it's a hobby you should spend some time working with it. Everyone wants the cheapest parts and kits but also wants the finest components. I don't think those go together. At the end of the day a little bit of work on some parts is a lot easier than making or glassing tubes and making nosecones.

Want something that fits--buy LOC-Precision!