X-prize Estes 'Canadian Arrow'

[dr wogz]

A sweet looking rocket by any means, and big 'D powered' to boot!! Upgrades to E or G?

But is it me, or does it look a lot like an extended V2? (or that other one they had, the 'Cosmos' or 'Silver Streak' I think, a silver '1950's retro rocket..) same BT dia., same nose cone, same boat tail....

 

[dr wogz]

D'Uhhh, silly me...

I should actually look / do research to see what my country is offering. It is an extended 'V2'.

Well, I guess a kit that can be bashed into a V2!

No sence talking about it's design, but we can talk about how cool it looks!

 

[MetMan]

Doc,

That's the Silver Comet--a classic Estes kit from the late 90/ealy 00s. Silver Streak does sound familiar from somewhere, though...

Does anybody know if the Canadian Arrow nose cone is going to be the straight V2 style or will it have some kind of detailing?

MetMan

 

[rbeckey]

I just had the same thought. Hopefully it will be plain and the windows are decals. I plan on getting several for bashing. I might even make a Canadian Arrow of one!

 

[sandman]

A teaser for you!

 

[bcdlr]

That was interesting about the Canadian Arrow. I didn't realize how successful the V-2 was. The Canadian Arrow site has some good information and it also has links to more V-2 information / history.
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BTW, I know this is sort of 'off' the topic but is there a V-2 kit currently available?
What it's like, etc?

 

[gerbs4me]

bcdlr- Estes makes a scale V-2, easy to build fun to fly, cost around $35, I think LOC makes one too

 

[dr wogz]

Since this is being steered towards the V2, which I don't mind in the least!! Love teh A-4 / V2,a nd its history,,

As for kits, Estes has (had?!) two, a 'D' sized one, and their larger 'E' powered. (Which I think are overpriced, at least up here..)

LOC make a few, in different sizes.
Mountain side hobbies also has one (Seems to be their only one!)
And Aerospace Speciality Products has a range of V-2, from mini, to, well, large!
https://www.asp-rocketry.com/scalekits.html

Now, weren't they (the baddies in the 40's) also developeing a two stage rocket, to try and hit teh US / Canada? Any oteh info on this?

 

[sandman]

Now, weren't they (the baddies in the 40's) also developeing a two stage rocket, to try and hit teh US / Canada? Any oteh info on this?

That would be the A9/A10 or Amerika rocket

Try this link and look at all the pretty pictures. https://www.astronautix.com/lvs/a9a10.htm

 

[Daedalus]

Space Craft make a very nice one - available from Deepsky:

https://www.deepskyrocketshop.co.uk...d=407&osCsid=1caa5b2fc91a197a620dcef2e55296fb

It is very much a true scale kit (for that read lumpy and bumpy). The prototypes were not beautifully finished smooth items like most of the kits - they were very roughly built by slave labour.

 

[bcdlr]

Okay, okay. You guys got me going.
I like the ASP V-2's. That mini would be great for my regular flying field. And I bet my granddaughter would like it painted up in the yellow and black scheme (saw it on the White Sands site yesterday and loved it).
Anybody flown this one - the mini?
The ABC one looks good, too but they're a little pricey, me thinks. That or I'm just cheap (well okay, that's a given)...

 

[Stymye]

the canadian arrow could be used for alot of scale bashing

I plan to buy a "few"....If only I can get a copy of the alway V2 book

 

[Bill]

Originally posted by Dr Wogz

As for kits, Estes has (had?!) two, a 'D' sized one, and their larger 'E' powered. (Which I think are overpriced, at least up here..)

In my previous life, Estes sold the third V2 kit based on the BT-55 with balsa nose and tail cones.


Bill

 

[MetMan]

For more info, see

www.v2rocket.com

The definitive web source in my opinion...

 

[bcdlr]

Originally posted by MetMan
For more info, see

www.v2rocket.com

The definitive web source in my opinion...

Great site!
https://www.v2rocket.com/start/scale/models.html - has pictures of Space Craft's (Paul Clark) model of the V-2. Simply awesome. If I had the money and space to shoot that off...
Here's a link to ASP's scale page:
https://www.asp-rocketry.com/scalekits.html
I'm getting the little one (13 mm engines).
A lot more history here then I realized!

 

[sandman]

Estes sold the third V2 kit based on the BT-55 with balsa nose and tail cones.

Balsa Machining Services has those parts "in stock"!

https://www.balsamachining.com/CONES.htm

It's the BTC-55Z tail cone and the BNC 55F nose cone

He also has 'em for a BT-50 a BT-60 and the centure 1.685" tube as well as a BT-20 version with a 10mm hole for the old Apogee motors (would make great fin tip pods!).

Easy builds!

 

[bcdlr]

Originally posted by sandman
>>Estes sold the third V2 kit based on the BT-55
>>with balsa nose and tail cones.

Balsa Machining Services has those parts "in stock"!

https://www.balsamachining.com/CONES.htm

It's the BTC-55Z tail cone and the BNC 55F nose cone
Easy builds!

Anybody have or can generate the fin patterns?
That would be a great / easy scratch build...

 

[sandman]

I highly reccomend Peter Always book "Scale Bash" it has all the fin patterns for V-2 from a BT-50 up to a BT-80 size.

Great book! it lists scale models that can be built with common "Estes" parts like which plastic nose cone would be accurate for what scale model you want to build.

The book also lists what kits had what size nose cones and part numbers.

The scale models are listed by nose cone sizes shapes ie. 3:1 ogive 4:1 ogive, 5:1 ogive and 11 degree conical.

The book also lists body tube lengths and center of gravity location...very handy!

I can redraw whatever size fin pattern you want and email it to you if you want.

 

[Micromeister]

Originally posted by bcdlr
Okay, okay. You guys got me going.
I like the ASP V-2's. That mini would be great for my regular flying field. And I bet my granddaughter would like it painted up in the yellow and black scheme (saw it on the White Sands site yesterday and loved it).
Anybody flown this one - the mini?
The ABC one looks good, too but they're a little pricey, me thinks. That or I'm just cheap (well okay, that's a given)...

How bout a scratch BT-5, micro-maxx powered V-2? I think I spent all of about 1.50 on the parts and basswood. Flys like a bat and recovers with 3/4" plumbers tape wadding/12" streamer

 

[bcdlr]

Originally posted by Micromeister
How bout a scratch BT-5, micro-maxx powered V-2? I think I spent all of about 1.50 on the parts and basswood. Flys like a bat and recovers with 3/4" plumbers tape wadding/12" streamer

I can't see that good! Ha, ha.

 

[bcdlr]

Originally posted by sandman
I highly reccomend Peter Always book "Scale Bash" it has all the fin patterns for V-2 from a BT-50 up to a BT-80 size.

Great book! it lists scale models that can be built with common "Estes" parts like which plastic nose cone would be accurate for what scale model you want to build.
...
I can redraw whatever size fin pattern you want and email it to you if you want.

Sandman, found another set of plans on Jim Z's site and they had the fins but it might be nice to have them redrawn "just to make sure" they're correct.
Where do you get this book?
I looked on Amazon and some of his books are out of print and EXPENSIVE. Not saying they're not worth it just a little more than I can put into my hobbies...

The book sounds great, though!

 

[SpartaChris]

Originally posted by sandman
I highly reccomend Peter Always book "Scale Bash" it has all the fin patterns for V-2 from a BT-50 up to a BT-80 size.

Great book! it lists scale models that can be built with common "Estes" parts like which plastic nose cone would be accurate for what scale model you want to build.

The book also lists what kits had what size nose cones and part numbers.

The scale models are listed by nose cone sizes shapes ie. 3:1 ogive 4:1 ogive, 5:1 ogive and 11 degree conical.

The book also lists body tube lengths and center of gravity location...very handy!

I can redraw whatever size fin pattern you want and email it to you if you want.

I searched Amazon.com for that book, but to no avail.. . Any idea where I can find it?

-Chris

 

[DynaSoar]

Originally posted by Dr Wogz
D'Uhhh, silly me...

I should actually look / do research to see what my country is offering. It is an extended 'V2'.

Exactly, and not by much. It is exactly 10 time longer than its diameter.

 

[Stymye]

all hobbies has it for for $10

It's the only place that seems to have the v2 book as well

https://secure.consumersinterest.com/allhobbies/default.asp?groupid=1230150555142

 

[jpasqual]

SpartaChris -Petes website can be found at:

members.aol.com/petealway/Peterweb.html

 

[sandman]

When you go to Peter's site click on "Saturn Press"

You want "Scale Bash".

I also recommend "In the Shadow of The V-2" It has all the V-2 varients and a whole bunch of different paint schemes...OTHER than camo!

Camo paint job for a model rocket...right...Like I don't have enough trouble finding rockets!

 

[Stymye]

Sandman ...that might be true if you launch(or land ) in the woods...my camo version stands out like a sore thumb on a grass field..now if it was green grass colored that would be hard to see!