Windows 7 Going Away

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by aerostadt, Nov 10, 2019.

Help Support The Rocketry Forum by donating:

  1. Nov 10, 2019 #1

    aerostadt

    aerostadt

    aerostadt

    Lifetime Supporter TRF Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,909
    Likes Received:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brigham City, UT
    I just got a notice from Intuit, the maker of Turbo Tax, that Windows 7 support is going away in January 2020.
    https://www.intuit.com/support/windows-7-end-of-life/?cid=ipd_fms_pro1_19_tsm_win7_FY20

    I just know it will be a matter of time before Windows 7 will be run over by viruses. I have Windows 10 on a laptop and I don't like it. Is there any way around this? Will somebody make a pseudo Windows 7 or do I just bite the bullet and go with Windows 10?
     
  2. Nov 10, 2019 #2

    OZRoc

    OZRoc

    OZRoc

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2016
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Orstraylya
    I've been putting it off for years mainly due to the bad rep win10 had when it initially came out (security, hogging bandwidth, etc) but I figured when I heard that win7 was exiting that I had better bite the bullet. Picked up the parts for a brand new PC (not worth upgrading on your old stuff unless it is pretty speccy) and assembled it the other day. All installed perfectly and am now in the process of transferring selected old crap to the new one. Make sure you search and implement recommendations (security, hogging bandwidth, etc).
    Cheers
     
  3. Nov 11, 2019 at 12:56 AM #3

    Hardline

    Hardline

    Hardline

    Ecstatic and Joyous

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    519
    Likes Received:
    63
    Location:
    Goodyear, AZ
    I have been dragged, kicking and screaming, from Windows 7 to Windows 10 this year.....

    I found I liked Windows 10 after I made it do what I wanted it to do - not what it is set up to do.
     
  4. Nov 11, 2019 at 2:40 AM #4

    prfesser

    prfesser

    prfesser

    Lifetime Supporter TRF Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    May 7, 2017
    Messages:
    714
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Murray, KY
    IMHO Windows went downhill after XP.

    I too was dragged kicking and screaming to Win10 earlier this year. No choice; new computer and that's what they got.
     
  5. Nov 11, 2019 at 2:44 AM #5

    skydog

    skydog

    skydog

    Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    13
  6. Nov 11, 2019 at 2:45 AM #6

    Brent

    Brent

    Brent

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,502
    Likes Received:
    24
    Just upgraded tonight, Still need to figure out how to import all my windows live emails.
     
  7. Nov 11, 2019 at 2:48 AM #7

    mjstech

    mjstech

    mjstech

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    22
    this
     
  8. Nov 11, 2019 at 7:24 AM #8

    OverTheTop

    OverTheTop

    OverTheTop

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,989
    Likes Received:
    602
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    Sad to see Win7 going. It is causing us some grief at work, with lots of old software struggling to work under Win10.


    I read an interesting article on how Intuit are cornering the market on tax software, and lobbying the lawmakers to essentially stop other people providing free tax returns for low income earners. It was a scary article. Lots of unethical practices. They basically pushed people to paying by having tight terms for the free version and lots of unnecessary upgrade offers.
     
  9. Nov 11, 2019 at 6:23 PM #9

    dr wogz

    dr wogz

    dr wogz

    Fly caster

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    4,851
    Likes Received:
    343
    Location:
    Land of Poutine!
    I'm not a fan of WIn 10 either. The way the "forced" it upon the masses didn't help things..

    The fact it comes pre-loaded with a bunch of (to me) useless apps & add-ons for a desktop PC, and that you cannot remove them nor really shut them down.

    But I do get the idea / intent that they wanted one OS for desktops, PC, tablet, and phones. Sadly, these items all differ, and making the "one size fits all" means the upper end machines loose out.

    Sadly, I feel M$ has lost their way, and are doing what ever they can to:
    Appease the investor
    Appease the millennials & hipsters (which is apparently only 20% of their user base)..

    For those who have used Windows for years (I go back to Windows 3.0, DOS 3 even, with a bit of CPM), the changes they make are getting harder & harder to adapt to. I really don't care for the fact they are expecting you to change your habits & paradigms based on what they think you want & how you work / use their products.. Being able to personalize the windows environment is not as it once was..

    • Cortana?! who uses it? why?
    • Edge? garbage, as 50+% use Chrome or other..
    • X-box? I don't console game / own an X-box. I do game, but only PC games (none of which are X-box based)
    • Contacts? Either Hotmail list or outlook / M$ Office.. again, why?
    • Notification center? Again, what does this do? Why do I need it? (Am I really that dumb that I need a reminder that I made a photo album?)

    We are going thru a change over here at Work, So I've recently had my machine upgraded from Win 7 to WIn 10 Pro. And frankly, when I look at the items in the start menu / apps menu, is anything really that different? Oh yeah, they rearranged all the help, settings and a few other things, so that it looks different, but now is hard to find & change anything..

    To me, Windows 10 is nothing more than a coat of paint, and "52 pick-up", and some faint hope the world will bend to their whims..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_pickup
     
    Greg Furtman and prfesser like this.
  10. Nov 11, 2019 at 7:46 PM #10

    heada

    heada

    heada

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    165
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Indianapolis, Indiana
    At work I'm forced on Win10. At home I have a few Linux based computers and a Win7 computer. I'm not upgrading my Win7 computer. I have no need to. If it was to be upgraded to anything, it'd be Linux.
     
  11. Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM #11

    ChuckH

    ChuckH

    ChuckH

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    394
    Likes Received:
    67
    +1 I've been saying the same thing for years.
     
    prfesser likes this.
  12. Nov 11, 2019 at 8:10 PM #12

    rfjustin

    rfjustin

    rfjustin

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Franklin, WI
    sugar.JPG
     
  13. Nov 11, 2019 at 8:13 PM #13

    ChuckH

    ChuckH

    ChuckH

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    394
    Likes Received:
    67
  14. Nov 11, 2019 at 11:33 PM #14

    75Grandville

    75Grandville

    75Grandville

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Messages:
    708
    Likes Received:
    9
    Have been researching this myself for the home computers. Just finished downloading a couple of Linux distros to test for compatibility. I can live with it no problems - need to make sure that the stuff my kids use is compatible, or will work with emulator.

    Interesting to see what others' experiences are.
     
  15. Nov 12, 2019 at 12:00 AM #15

    Marc_G

    Marc_G

    Marc_G

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,730
    Likes Received:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Indianapolis Metro Area
    I've been using at least one Win10 machine since it came out. Bought a cheap tablet at the time to play with it. It gradually improved.

    A few months ago I retired my last Win7 machine. Win10 works fine, is stable (not counting windows update patch Tuesday) and runs everything I need. I do like Linux and usually have one or more distros running, at the moment non are up to date. I don't use them as much as windows and I lose interest. Some software I require is only Windows and not emulator compatible.

    My recommendation is to use Win10 PRO because it gives you the option to pause updates for 35 days, which is plenty of time to let patch Tuesday shenanigans pass you by.

    Marc
     
  16. Nov 12, 2019 at 12:29 AM #16

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Tobor

    Get your peanuts.... TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,290
    Likes Received:
    210
    This whole "forced migration" (Arbitrary EOL) by Redmond is a real sore spot with me. Never mind that the entire Win10 paradigm is horrid, nor that Windows Updates cannot be scheduled or postponed by the end user. The real kicker for me is the blatant invasive spying that Win10 performs on every major aspect of the user experience. Only on the Pro and Ultimate editions can this be turned off.

    When Win7 fails for me, I will be migrating completely over to Linux. Linux Mint to be precise. WineHQ for Linux will help me run any "Windows" apps that I cannot do without.

    >EOF<
     
  17. Nov 15, 2019 at 7:23 PM #17

    RocketT.Coyote

    RocketT.Coyote

    RocketT.Coyote

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    19
  18. Nov 15, 2019 at 7:59 PM #18

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2018
    Messages:
    150
    Likes Received:
    47
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Webster, Wisconsin
    Stardock make a number of inexpensive programs that allows you to change the look & behavior of Win 10. Start 10 is one of them. I've been running it for a year now.
    http://stardock.com/
    Also there is a free program called WinAero Tweaker that allows you to change the look & feel of Win 10.
    https://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836

    If you have a valid Win 7 key you can use that key to activate a Win 10 install.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2019 at 8:05 PM #19

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2018
    Messages:
    150
    Likes Received:
    47
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Webster, Wisconsin
    Paul, the latest releases of Win 10 that you can download & install don't have all that bloatware that the original releases had. I worked as an IT person at a community college and all those useless apps drove me crazy! I guess enough people/businesses complained enough that MS listened.

    Another thing when installing is do a custom install and close all the back doors that MS has set up for an automatic install.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2019 at 10:34 PM #20

    John Taylor

    John Taylor

    John Taylor

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2019
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    62
    Gender:
    Male
  21. Nov 15, 2019 at 10:51 PM #21

    dr wogz

    dr wogz

    dr wogz

    Fly caster

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    4,851
    Likes Received:
    343
    Location:
    Land of Poutine!
    Greg, when you know, you know, and it's easy. When you don't, you're stuck & frustrated. I have what I have. I really don't have the time or energy to do a re-install. I am, however, due for a new machine, and maybe Santa will being me one..

    It's just sad, that M$ initially forces this upon you.. only to later realize we all don't work & think as they do..
     
    Greg Furtman likes this.
  22. Nov 15, 2019 at 11:10 PM #22

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Greg Furtman

    Forum Supporter TRF Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2018
    Messages:
    150
    Likes Received:
    47
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Webster, Wisconsin
    True. I'm lucky in that I understand software & operating systems and how to tweak them to my liking. If you ever need any help message me. :)
     
  23. Nov 16, 2019 at 4:26 AM #23

    rfjustin

    rfjustin

    rfjustin

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Franklin, WI
    Dark, heavy drink of water, but agreed, fantastic movie!
     
    John Taylor likes this.
  24. Nov 16, 2019 at 4:57 AM #24

    scadaman29325

    scadaman29325

    scadaman29325

    Not so well known.

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2004
    Messages:
    200
    Likes Received:
    19
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Clinton, SC
    Just like the update I got on my phone, many of the icons totally changed and some functionality. Oh, that must be rotation lock icon, because that's where it was before the change. And just like buying a new car, oh, the wipers are over here now. Drives me crazy.

    But I got to say W10 seems easier than W7 after you learn a few tricks like typing the filename or app name in the search bar. Just pops right up. No more drilling down in the programs menu.
     
    Nytrunner likes this.
  25. Nov 16, 2019 at 3:57 PM #25

    Ross

    Ross

    Ross

    Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2018
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    It worked like that on windows 7 also. Press windows key, enter query. (as I type this on a up to date linux computer. I don't have any software that requires windows, so the transfer was quite painless. I have heard good things about wine if you require windows software)
     
  26. Nov 16, 2019 at 4:45 PM #26
  27. Nov 16, 2019 at 5:19 PM #27

    aerostadt

    aerostadt

    aerostadt

    Lifetime Supporter TRF Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,909
    Likes Received:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brigham City, UT
    I will definitely come back to this thread to help with the transition to Windows 10 come next month. Right now, I am reluctant to make the change. My past experience is that when I make a major change on my computer, I end up with a lot of trouble just running to stay in place. I have a lot of end of the year church work to do like the standard payroll, but also benevolence checks to write. Not to mention my own Christmas card and church member mailing address labels to print out. I don't think I want to make the transition until I get more things done reliably on the old Windows 7.
     
  28. Nov 17, 2019 at 7:55 AM #28

    scadaman29325

    scadaman29325

    scadaman29325

    Not so well known.

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2004
    Messages:
    200
    Likes Received:
    19
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Clinton, SC
    Yes, but I was too hard headed to go the easy way and was not convinced to use it till I got to w10.
     
  29. Nov 17, 2019 at 1:28 PM #29

    Ez2cDave

    Ez2cDave

    Ez2cDave

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,471
    Likes Received:
    551
    Agreed . . . 100% ! ! !

    Dave F.
     
  30. Nov 17, 2019 at 2:02 PM #30

    bill_s

    bill_s

    bill_s

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2012
    Messages:
    902
    Likes Received:
    5
    My only real concern is the final "update" to Security Essentials for Vista was to turn it off! Thanks guys!
     

Share This Page