Why so many diabetics?

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  1. Jul 12, 2018 #61

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    I just feel we are chasing our tails round in circles till the next redistribution of the food pyramid is shuffled once more. We swear on what's the 'in' thing today only to vehemently reject those 'silly notions' as "what were we even thinking about!" in a decade.
     
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    Across all eras, the only thing that provably works is eating fewer calories. A body can fine tune it with type of calories, micronutrients, HIIT, intermittent fasting, whatever.... but consuming less leads to weighing less. This note is also addressed to me :)
     
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    True, you have to create a calorie deficit to lose weight. To keep it off, you have to maintain healthy habits.
     
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    Whatever those healthy habits of the day may be.
     
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    For a many blue collar folks... those habits are just another day at work.
     
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    While others are driven nuts at work.
     
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    The healthy habits are what get you to lose the weight. The problem is people drift back to old habits.
     
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    I had quit smoking, drinking and drugs back in '90 and haven't looked back since. Eating smarter, and staying away from all fast food garbage was easy in comparison. We enjoy the menus we cook though we still include beef, pork, fish and other proteins. We will not go vegan yet we enjoy vegetables very much. I just made a very colorful Greek salad along with scallops tonight. Over the top.
     
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    One thing I don't think was posted here is no eating at night before bed. You'll certainly burn no calories this way laying inert.
     
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    Actually, metabolic studies have shown that you burn more calories laying flat sleeping in a bed than you do sitting at your desk at work or watching TV. So get more sleep!
     
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    And when you sleep, you are not awake continuously eating/snacking.
     
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    Exactly - you win on two fronts, unless you are a sleep grazer.
     
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    I've read the opposite, at best it's still controversial: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/eating-before-bed. Once again this is about what the current trend says. It will more than likely change with time.
     
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    Actually this (cut the fat) is the exact opposite of what I consider good advice.

    Obviously important to watch overall calorie count and eat balanced diet. But within that, a higher proportion of fat helps shut down appetite and is better from glycemic perspective.

    In other words a 200 calorie snack of cheese is better than a 200 calorie snack of bread.
     
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    I did not say anything about eating before bed. I am referring to calorimetric testing of sitting vs sleeping.

    This is absolutely correct and the AHA is still preaching to cut the fat despite 50 years of studies that lack and scientific support for low-fat lifestyles.
     
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    My statement was about eating before bed to which you replied one burns more calories sleeping. I then supplied a link to the controversial subject.
     
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    I know NOT eating anything after supper (5-6pm) helped me get back to a healthy weight. Went from 205 to 175 without really doing anything more. Smaller portions also helps too but at least now I can bend over without grunting like a cave man!
     
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    Look above. My response was not to your response. My response was to Shred.

    No eating after 6 is a form of fasting- Fasting creates a caloric deficit and as long as you have a deficit you will lose weight. Some are unable to fast for 16 hours a day so fasting on a 16:8 schedule is not a good diet for them.
     
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    You had quoted me on my having read the opposite: "I've read the opposite, at best it's still controversial: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/eating-before-bed. Once again this is about what the current trend says. It will more than likely change with time".
     
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